gather data and ensure that female Marines are provided with the best
opportunity to succeed," Capt. Maureen Krebs, a Marine spokeswoman said
"Pullups?? That's like ... WORK!"
If I were a female who had enlisted in the USMC, I would be sure I could do plenty of pull-ups before ever arriving at boot camp. Seems like it would make life much easier.
Police & Fire already knew this.
I guess they haven’t been keeping up with the times.
We are all supposed to pretend that there is nothing a man can do that a woman can’t do.
And nothing a wonman can do that a gay boy can’t do.
There is no room for objective fact and actual results in Obama-Land.
Pullups? Had infantry combat training in 1944. Had to walk/run 20 miles with full field pack, rifle, steel helmet in combat boots but no pullups. It was legs and endurance.
The attempt to offer ‘equality’ in the military by allowing female recruits to train for and serve in combat is running head-on into the reality that military combat requires a level of muscle strength that many females simply do not have due to the difference in body structure. Duh! I suspect that most young men seeking to enter the Marine Corps could accomplish three pullups. The military, now run by PC types, will find ‘alternative’ tests (that females can pass) to justify their acceptance into combat training. This likely won’t end well for the military or the women involved.
Hey just lower the standards for the poor dears...its more important they they FEEL like real Marines...who cares that a lack of upper body strength might mean they can’t help the injured out of danger...
Lowering standards worked so well in the public schools...didn’t it?
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"Pullups?? That's like ... WORK!"
When I was in basic training in the late 50s we had to do 12 pull-ups in good form before we got breakfast.
Probably some failed the test but I cannot recall seeing many not do it. Hunger does that to a man.
They will now start lowering the standards.
i’m sure all the male marines are feeling just super about this. /s
Whereas virtually all combat roles are now open to women, now therefore the Selective Service Act is in violation of the Equal Protection Clause of the US Constitution. Scrap the whole thing and use the savings to reinstate what the military has lost.
Huh?
.I thought those woos’z were given an exemption from pullups and now they’ve failed at nothing???
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The only way to fix this is to require all females under the age of 60 to register with The Selective Service. It’s only fair.
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For those that said the Marines will just have to dumb this down. Well, previously the Women Marines had to do a “Flex Arm Hang” which consisted of getting your chin above the pullup bar and holding it above it for some length of time without resting it on the pullup bar. It was a time scored event. In other words, if you could hold it up there for 30 seconds you got one score. If you held it up there for 40 seconds you got a higher score etc... So in fact if they dumbed it back down, my suspicion is that it would just go back to this.
What’s not mentioned in this article is the fact that if you only did 3 pullups, you most likely would still not pass the physical fitness test. That’s the minimum for the pullups, but there’s a minimum score for the overall test and if you only do 3 you are going to have a real hard time getting to the minimum score for the PFT. So these women have a lot longer way to go than 3 pullups most likely. That is, if one pullup for women counts the same as one pullup for men (five points).
Lastly, spending a career in the Marines with a large part of it in the infantry, I will say that I have never personally met a woman who could physically accomplish what is required of a combat infantryman. Doing hikes anywhere from 15 - 25 miles with a pack weighing 50 pounds, plus helmet, flack, rifle and any other extras. Some of those extras could be an M-16 (19.2 pounds), 81 mm mortar baseplate (25 pounds) radio (about 15 pounds), mortars, spare barrel bags etc. In the end, you can be loaded down with around 80 pounds. This is not to mention specialized training like jumps, mountain warfare, desert warfare, rubber boat raids etc.. All of it extremely physically demanding.
Somehow female and Marine seems to be oxymoronic, or is that just me?
On 20 November 1943, during the horrific fighting on Betio atoll during the battle of Tarawa, two Japanese tanks mounted a counterattack against the fragile Marine toehold on Red Beach 3. The Marines were huddled there at the base of a seawall in the face of withering fire from Admiral Keiji Shibasaki’s fanatical Japanese Naval Landing Force defenders who were slaughtering hundreds of their comrades in Betio Lagoon during 76 hours of some of the most savage fighting in the history not only of the Marines, but the US armed forces.
Marine anti-tank gun crews were trying to figure out how to get their 912 lb 37MM M3 antitank guns over the 7 foot plus seawall. The battery commander ordered his 5 man crews to LIFT them over. Being Marines who always obeyed even seemingly impossible orders, they did EXACTLY that and promptly knocked out the tanks. They then engaged several enemy bunkers whose dual purpose guns were repeatedly knocking out the approaching landing craft and put them out of action. Finally they routed a local counter attack of 200 or so Japanese against the south shore of Red Beach 3 with canister shot, all of this at a critical and precarious point in the landing.
Whats that about upper body strength being not as important in modern warfare anymore and that women are just as likely to be able to do the job of combat infantry?