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The hidden costs of ObamaCare
The Week ^ | 1/1/14 | Jacqueline Leo

Posted on 01/01/2014 7:24:24 PM PST by Typical_Whitey

ObamaCare has delivered another sucker punch to the middle class. This time it's sticker shock.

Now that most people can get past the tech problems of HealthCare.gov and actually see the real cost of insurance plans available, they are finding that Affordable Care is a big hit to the family budget. And when the family budget gets hit in the solar plexus, guess what happens to consumer spending and the economy?

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KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; abolishobamacare; aca; braking; liz; lizobamacare; obamacare; obamacaredeductibles; obamacareeconomy; obamacarepremiums; pricetag
RANT ON ------ For people that have an understanding of history and for logical thinking people that understand nothing is free in this world, and that the government is

the most corrupt and inefficient manager of all social programs, the choice could not be more clear.

We can either continue with this Obama and Democrat desire for fundamental change in America that gives us massive debt, creates the greatest wealth divide ever in our history, creates an oligargy of rich and

influential people that then use their power to enslave the population to their brand of nanny stateism, robbing the middleclass of its freedom, or we can

reject progressive liberalism and vote every Democrat that is up for election out of public office in 2014, and return this country to sound economic

principles that reward the hard working middle class, creating the conditions where an honest days work results in the realization of the American dream,

where laziness is not rewarded with a free ride paid for on the backs of those that work hard, and where liberty exists for all Americans who are here legally and one where our elected

officials actually enforce our laws, then we can ingnite a passion for freedom and the return of constitutional governance.

Vote out every Democrat holding office and save this country because the only other option is to get in line to get your Obamaphone, Obamahome, Obamaloan, Wic, Snap, Welfare, and Obamacare and then you might as

well just demand even more benefits from a government the will continue to sap the middleclass to pay these benefits to the lazy, as the rich continue to

squeeze the middleclass by raising costs of goods and services because in the end the rich never pay, even if Obama and Democrats tell you that they will

make them pay too, its a scam, if you haven't figured it out yet the them is you, you are the rich if you pay taxes, if you work hard, if you are trying to

live the American dream that them is you, you are the rich they are talking about, never trust Obama, remember he told you that you could keep your

healthcare insurance, and your doctor, how did that work out for you? You the hard working middleclass who alwayd did the right thing and bought a health

insurance policy, you are being punished with higher premiums to pay for those that are sicker than you that is the liberal version of fair, some call it

socialism, that is share the wealth, that is the new liberalism that is Obamacare, you go ahead and work hard so I don't have to, so quit reading this and

get back to work because somewhere some hoodlum needs more minutes on their Obamaphone so they can tell they baby mama to pick them us some Kools and a dime

bag on her SNAP card on her way home from gettin her hair did, peace!

RANT OFF....

1 posted on 01/01/2014 7:24:24 PM PST by Typical_Whitey
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To: Typical_Whitey

Your run on sentences make this almost unreadable.


2 posted on 01/01/2014 7:26:29 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Yeah, I talk fast too, originally from Philly, hard habit to break....


3 posted on 01/01/2014 7:39:20 PM PST by Typical_Whitey (The fundamental transformation resistance is futile you will be assimilated.)
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To: Typical_Whitey

I don’t believe you. Where are all your F-words?


4 posted on 01/01/2014 7:42:40 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Typical_Whitey

I don’t think that an increase cutting 50% of a family disposable income is exactly a “hidden” cost.

We already have subsidized health care and have had it for years. Your $12.00 Band-Aid and $20.00 aspirin helps to pay for the emergency room. Now, we will STILL have the $20.00 aspirin and $12.00 Band-Aid, but they and the increased premiums will also be paying for “navigators”, regulators, overseers, and so on.


5 posted on 01/01/2014 7:44:46 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: 17th Miss Regt

All your money will be going for the healthcare tax instead of buying a home, a car, furniture etc. Minimum snyone will be paying is $5,000 a year before another $5,000 deductable.

The economy is already crashed, obamacare will show how big a crater we are in.

Only way out is vote all the democrats out and any republican who is for more gov’t. like John Boehner and Mitch McConnell/


6 posted on 01/01/2014 7:46:18 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: Typical_Whitey

Every extra dime paid out for Obamacare and it’s deductibles is a dime that will not be spent in the economy.


7 posted on 01/01/2014 7:49:23 PM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: EEGator

LOL yeah that habit was hard to break too but the backspace on the keyboard helps curtail that....


8 posted on 01/01/2014 7:52:25 PM PST by Typical_Whitey (The fundamental transformation resistance is futile you will be assimilated.)
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To: Typical_Whitey

:)


9 posted on 01/01/2014 8:02:28 PM PST by EEGator
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To: 17th Miss Regt; Typical_Whitey
Excluding "rant on" and "rant off," Post #1 contains 492 words and four sentences. This is an average of one hundred twenty three words per sentence.

Yikes. Run on sentences doesn't adequately describe the condition.

10 posted on 01/01/2014 8:20:39 PM PST by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: Typical_Whitey
ObamaCare has delivered another sucker punch to the middle class.

I've read elsewhere Obamacare is a Knock Out game:

A black thug blind-sided the middle class with a sucker punch.

11 posted on 01/01/2014 9:20:44 PM PST by QT3.14 (Anagram: PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA = An Arab Backed Imposter)
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To: Typical_Whitey

What am I supposed to feel sorry for people?

You can’t use Karl Marx’s ideas to help the middle class.

You can’t do it.

But the middle class keeps voting for it.

So they can all screw off...


12 posted on 01/01/2014 9:32:06 PM PST by Tzimisce
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By forcing ObamaCare on America, Obama And The Lockstep Dumbos, deliver yet another sucker punch to the middle-class.

Boobamba obviously does not see himself as president of a thriving republic, peopled w/ ambitious, law-abiding citizens, constitutionally bound to personal freedom.

Boobama's cockamamie presidency serves only the melanin-underclass, and hand-picked Dumbocrat voting blocs.

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AS FREEPER GOPJ INSIGHTFULLY POSTED: "Obamacare was designed to benefit Democrats" (and hand-picked Democrat voting blocs---blocs that fulfill Obama's plans for a permanent Democratic majority):

<><> Blacks, browns, minorities, the melanin-underclass, benefit because of low, or no, income,

<><> Gays benefit for preexisting conditions, like HIV, and other STD's.

<><>State-dependent women benefit - Dems work hard to undermine marriage, to make them state-dependent, to make them qualify.

<><> Union lefties were given exemptions.

Last but not least....

"Liberal Elites" get the best doctors - their offices cleared of us middle-class riff-raff. The new Elites won't have to wait to see a doctor as Republican riff-raff are sent to the slaughterhouse.

SUMMING UP: Liberal elites got the gold. Republicans, conservatives, patriots, tea partiers, job-holders, the middle class, small business owners, etc....we got the shaft.

You say you don't vote Democrat? You get to pay for everything.

13 posted on 01/02/2014 3:15:10 AM PST by Liz
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NOT SEEN SINCE 1940's ERA EUROPE Obama And The Dumbos marching in lockstep. The persistent Dumbocrat drumbeat in obeisance to Obama --- kept ringing reassuringly in our ears.

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As far back as 2008, at the presidential debate in Nashville, Democrat candidate Obama advanced his signature plan that was ultimately enacted (by an historic straight Democrat party-line vote) into the "Affordable Care Act :

OBAMA: "No. 1, let me just repeat, if you’ve got a health care plan that you like, you can keep it. All I’m going to do is help you to lower the premiums on it. You’ll still have choice of doctor.”

Repeated over and over ---- with the promise that every American would be saving $2500.00 on healthcare costs.

DEMOCRATS CHIME IN:

SEN. HARRY REID (D-Nev.): “In fact, one of our core principles is that if you like the health care you have, you can keep it.” (Sen. Reid, Congressional Record, S.8642, 8/3/09)

SEN. RICHARD DURBIN: “We believe — and we stand by this — if you like your current health insurance plan, you will be able to keep it, plain and simple, straightforward.” (Sen. Durbin, Congressional Record, S.6401, 6/10/09)

SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY): “If you like your insurance, you keep it.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/29/09)

SEN. PATTY MURRAY (D-Wash.): “Again, if you like what you have, you will be able to keep it. Let me say this again: If you like what you have, when our legislation is passed and signed by the President, you will be able to keep it.” (Sen. Murray, Congressional Record, S.6400, 6/10/09)

SEN. MAX BAUCUS (D-Mont.): “That is why one of the central promises of health care reform has been and is: If you like what you have, you can keep it. That is critically important. If a person has a plan, and he or she likes it, he or she can keep it.” (Sen. Baucus, Congressional Record, S.7676, 9/29/10)

SEN. TOM HARKIN (D-Iowa): “One of the things we put in the health care bill when we designed it was the protection for consumers to keep the plan they have if they like it; thus, the term ‘grandfathered plans.’ If you have a plan you like — existing policies — you can keep them. … we said, if you like a plan, you get to keep it, and you can grandfather it in.” (Sen. Harkin, Congressional Record, S.7675-6, 9/29/10)

THEN-REP. TAMMY BALDWIN (D-Wis.): “Under the bill, if you like the insurance you have now, you may keep it and it will improve.” (Rep. Baldwin, Press Release, 3/18/10)

SEN. MARK BEGICH (D-Alaska): “If you got a doctor now, you got a medical professional you want, you get to keep that. If you have an insurance program or a health care policy you want of ideas, make sure you keep it. That you can keep who you want.” (Sen. Begich, Townhall Event, 7/27/09)

SEN. MICHAEL BENNET (D-Colo.): “We should begin with a basic principle: if you have coverage and you like it, you can keep it. If you have your doctor, and you like him or her, you should be able to keep them as well. We will not take that choice away from you.” (Sen. Bennet, Press Release, 6/11/09)

SEN. BARBARA BOXER (D-Calif.): “So we Democrats want people to be able to keep the health care they have. And the answer to that is choice of plans. And in the exchange, we’re going to have lots of different plans, and people will be able to keep the health care coverage they need and they want.” (Sen. Boxer, Press Release, 2/8/11)

SEN. SHERROD BROWN (D-Ohio): “Our Democrat bill says if you have health insurance and you like it, you can keep it…”(Sen. Brown, Congressional Record, S.12612, 12/7/09)

SEN. BEN CARDIN (D-Md.): “For the people of Maryland, this bill will provide a rational way in which they can maintain their existing coverage…” (Sen. Cardin, Congressional Record, S.13798, 12/23/09)

SEN. BOB CASEY (D-Pa.): “I also believe this Democrat legislation and the bill we are going to send to President Obama this fall will also have secure choices. If you like what you have, you like the plan you have, you can keep it. It is not going to change.” (Sen. Casey, Congressional Record, S.8070, 7/24/09)

SEN. KAY HAGAN (D-N.C.): ‘People who have insurance they’re happy with can keep it’ “We need to support the private insurance industry so that people who have insurance they’re happy with can keep it while also providing a backstop option for people without access to affordable coverage.” (“Republicans Vent As Other Compromise Plans Get Aired,” National Journal’s Congress Daily, 6/18/09)

SEN. MARY LANDRIEU (D-La.): “If you like the insurance that you have, you’ll be able to keep it.” (MSNBC’s Hardball, 12/16/09)

SEN. PAT LEAHY (D-Vt.): “[I]f you like the insurance you now have, keep the insurance you have.” (CNN’s “Newsroom,” 10/22/09)

SEN. BOB MENENDEZ (D-N.J.): “If you like what you have, you get to keep it” “Menendez is a member of the Senate Finance Committee, which is expected to release a bill later this week. He stressed that consumers who are satisfied with their plans won’t have to change. ‘If you like what you have, you get to keep it,’ he said.” (“Health Care Plan Would Help N.J., Menendez Says,” The Record, 6/19/09)

SEN. JEFF MERKLEY (D-Oreg.): “[E]nsuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it” “The HELP Committee bill sets forward a historic Democrat plan that will, for the first time in American history, give every American access to affordable health coverage, reduce costs, and increase choice, while ensuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it.” (Sen. Merkley, Press Release, 7/15/09)

SEN. BARBARA MIKULSKI (D-Md.): “It means that if you like the insurance you have now, you can keep it.” (Sen. Mikulski, Press Release, 12/24/09)

SEN. JAY ROCKEFELLER (D-W.Va.): “I want people to know, the President’s promise that if you like the coverage you have today you can keep it is a pledge we intend to keep.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Hearing, 9/23/09)

SEN. JACK REED (D-R.I.): “If you like the insurance you have, you can choose to keep it.” (Sen. Reed, Town Hall Event, 6/25/09)

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-Vt.): “‘If you have coverage you like, you can keep it,’ says Sen. Sanders.” (“Sick And Wrong,” Rolling Stone, 4/5/10)

SEN. JEANNE SHAHEEN (D-N.H.): ‘if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it’ “My understanding … is that … if you have health coverage that you like you can keep it. As I said, you may have missed my remarks at the beginning of the call, but one of the things I that I said as a requirement that I have for supporting a Democrat bill is that if you have health coverage that you like you should be able to keep that. …under every scenario that I’ve seen, if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it.” (Sen. Shaheen, “Health Care Questions From Across New Hampshire,” Accessed 11/13/13)

SEN. DEBBIE STABENOW (D-Mich.): “As someone who has a large number of large employers in my state, one of the things I appreciate about the Democrat chairman’s remark is — is the grandfathering provisions, the fact that the people in my state, 60 percent of whom have insurance, are going to be able to keep it. And Mr. Chairman, I appreciate that. That’s a strong commitment. It’s clear in the bill … I appreciate the strong commitment on your part and the president to make sure that if you have your insurance you can keep it. That’s the bottom line for me.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/24/09)

SEN. JON TESTER (D-Mont.): “‘If you like your coverage, you’ll be able to keep it,’ Tester said, adding that if Medicare changes, it will only become stronger”. (“Tester In Baker To Discuss Health Care,” The Fallon County Times, 11/20/09)

SEN. TOM UDALL (D-N.Mex.): “Some worried reform would alter their current coverage. It won’t. If you like your current plan, you can keep it.” (“What I Learned: About Health Care Reform This Summer, By Your Lawmakers In Congress,” Albuquerque Journal, 9/8/09)

SEN. SHELDON WHITEHOUSE (D-R.I.): “..it honors President Obama’s programs and the promise of all of the Presidential candidates that if you like the plan you have, you get to keep it. You are not forced out of anything.” (Sen. Whitehouse, Congressional Record, S.8668, 8/3/09)

Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) the 60th vote on Obamacare: "people who are happy with their current plan, wouldn't need to change it."

FRANKEN YOUTUBE SOUND BITE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCZmAYYNz8Ihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCZmAYYNz8I

14 posted on 01/02/2014 3:32:07 AM PST by Liz
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To: 17th Miss Regt
Your run on sentences make this almost unreadable.

On top of that, he assumes democrats in predominantly democrat districts or state will vote out their own. They must be dominated or brought down from within.

15 posted on 01/02/2014 3:44:28 AM PST by Bobby_Taxpayer
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To: Liz

Powerful info.


16 posted on 01/02/2014 4:03:33 AM PST by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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Related additional info, recommended reading:

ObamaCare’s latest whopper (Here come the Deathpanels)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3107350/posts

ObamaCare Tax: Full List of ObamaCare Taxes

http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-taxes.php


17 posted on 01/02/2014 5:11:36 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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