NTSB: Hawaii plane floated 25 mins, then sank.

AP via Star Advertiser ^ | Dec 31, 2013 | AP via Star Advertiser

[RckyRaCoCo]

The National Transportation Safety Board says in a preliminary accident report that a small commercial plane that crash-landed in Hawaii waters floated for about 25 minutes before sinking.

[Menehune56]

Thought maybe the Wikipedia article on her might give an answer to that — but there is NO Wikipedia article for Loretta Fuddy. Is it just me — or does that seem very odd?

You're right and it does seem odd to me too.

[Fred Nerks]

http://subudgreaterseattle.com/mourning-deliana-fuddy/

Mourning Deliana Fuddy
By Paul On December 12, 2013 · 1 Comment ....From Subud USA:

December 12, 2013
Dear Brothers and Sisters,

Our dear sister, Deliana Loretta Fuddy, died yesterday in a plane crash one half mile off the coast of Molokai, Hawaii. The plane was en route to Honolulu. Many of us knew Deliana as the Chairperson of Subud USA from 2006 to 2008.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Subuh_Sumohadiwidjojo

Muhammad Subuh SumohadiwidjojoFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Muhammad Subuh Sumohadiwidjojo (born 1901 in Java, Indonesia; died 1987). As a young man Muhammad Subuh who received a series of intense experiences that he believed gave him contact with a spiritual energy from a higher power. By the 1930s, he believed that it was his task to transmit this energy - which he called latihan kejiwaan (Indonesian for “spiritual exercise”) - to others, but that he was not to seek people out but simply to wait for those who asked for it.

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And today, Alice Dewey, the great Indonesianist, as she liked to call herself, who spent something like 15 years on and off in Java as an anthropologist, researching javanese arts and crafts, and peasant marketing...Alice, the mentor of Stanley Ann Dunham who wrote her thesis (?) on the subject of Javanese blacksmithing...now lives permanently in Indonesia. Are we beginning to see connections yet?

http://www.anthropology.hawaii.edu/people/emeritus/Dewey/index.html

[Fred Nerks]

I think it's a fair question to ask if she also might have been a member of Subud.

[Fred Nerks]

[PDF]Page 1 A Singular Woman The Untold Story of Barack Obama's ...pulver.co.uk:18080/get/pdf/9409 Mar 18, 2008 - Mohammad Mansur Medeiros, a reclusive and scholarly. Subud member from Fall River, Massachusetts, and Harvard, whom Ann hired as a ...

whilst wondering if there was a SUBUD - Fuddy - Alice Dewey connection, Google shows the above, but the link won't open.

GOOGLE PAGE

Need to find the relative pages in A SINGULAR WOMAN, funny that, Fuddy being related to zero by marriage and all...

[Fred Nerks]

Ann Soetoro maintained close connections with Subud and her own religious beliefs match those of the Subud to a tee. Janny Scott’s book, A Singular Woman, provides a unique insight into Ann’s religious beliefs, which tend more to Subud beliefs than her own Unitarian upbringing. First, Ann Soetoro encountered Subuh members while working for the Institute for Management and Education and Development, while under a grant from the Ford Foundation, in 1971. She hired members of the Subud, who lived in the International Subud Center compound in the Jakarta suburb of Cilandak, to teach intensive courses in business English. Second, given her residence in the north coast Java port city of Semarang, Bapak’s hometown and base, from 1978 to 1980, it is inconceivable that Ann Soetoro was unaware of Bapak and his movement.

Third, Bapak and his Subud followers were well-entrenched at the East-West Center at the University of Hawaii, where Ann Dunham Soetoro met her Kenyan and Indonesian husbands.

Even Kenya was not unknown to Subud missionaries. Subud conversion missions set out from Indonesia in the early 1960s to Kenya, Swaziland, and Northern and Southern Rhodesia.

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isn't that interesting...

source

[BenLurkin]

Just d-mn!

[TADSLOS]

This just gets curiouser and curiouser.

[TADSLOS]

What happens in Hawaii, stays in Hawaii.

Granny knows all about that.

Loose ends get nipped.

[freepersup]

What if one of the passengers was a sleeper agent that helped Fuddy drink of the deep? Passenger manifest? Anyone? Has the autopsy been completed and... if so, the results released?

[Fred Nerks]

One thing always leads to another.

[Fred Nerks]

And I was about to head out the door, when this popped up. You wanted to do some sleuthing, so I’ll leave it to you, can you see them all in the same pot? Fuddy and Alice and that little girl from Kansas, working out in 1963 how they were going to shift the little zero to Indonesia? Remember, Lolo was a foreign student at the East West Centre...

have fun, I’m off.

[freepersup]

Roger-

Great! Cheerleading’s easy- now I’ve gotta’ go to work.

I swear, as things get scrubbed, other things seemingly reappear faster... perhaps there are friends in deep cover?

The degrees of connection being discovered are truly amazing, yet (now) make perfect sense. Wow!

Big shoes to fill... mumbling... putting on a pot of coffee... mumbling... checking the Rolodex for some contacts... mumbling... wrapping fingers on the desk... mumbling... chewing on a pencil... mumbling...

Boatswain’s Mate! Sound the Pipe! CPO! Lower the gangway! Good luck detective!

[freepersup]

[Chode]

blank post...

[ExTexasRedhead]

Wonder if the medical examiner will die suddenly like in the Breitbart case?

[Political Junkie Too]

Has the coroner said what she died of yet?

Vexatious politics?

-PJ

[freepersup]

You can’t see the image with at least one of those eyes eyes eyes? I just closed my browser and reopened it, and I’ve got a Cessna Caravan in the water, top side up, off Molokai, compliments of kitv.com. Just checked my pings page and it’s there too. I see it on the thread... so... try... refreshing... your... window???

[Jane Long]

Yikes...there’s a bottomless pit in CC. :-O

[Jane Long]

I just see a blue box with a tiny, white question mark inside of it. No Cessna, no water, nada.

[Chode]

prolly my browser setting but i finally got it... yup, looks like a whole plane to me