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To: dayglored

Don’t get mad, but I’m going to ask you and all the other people here who still live in New York, Connecticut, Illinois, New Jersey and California one thing: Why the hell are you still there?


5 posted on 01/01/2014 1:16:06 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why the hell are you still there?

Because it's like the deep red South compared to Massachusetts?

6 posted on 01/01/2014 1:27:47 PM PST by glorgau
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Don’t get mad, but I’m going to ask you and all the other people here who still live in New York, Connecticut, Illinois, New Jersey and California one thing: Why the hell are you still there?

Do you really thinks it's that simple to uproot a family and find new jobs in a strange place? I'd like to leave but I wouldn't know where to go. I want to leave CT before the real estate values start to fall but I have two young sons and my wife is building a pretty good career.

Do you really think it's that easy? Also, I am trying to fight this crap. We get together and vote and have tea party rallies and pro 2nd Amendment rallies.

I guess you could as FReepers why we don't leave the US of A as well.

7 posted on 01/01/2014 1:30:16 PM PST by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

> Why the hell are you still there?

Because both I and my mate have houses here that represent our lives’ investments, and we don’t have an economically feasible way to uproot. And frankly we rather like the rural living available here. It’s overall a good place to live, despite some restrictive laws.

Otherwise we would have split, long ago.


10 posted on 01/01/2014 1:55:14 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
feh...
13 posted on 01/01/2014 2:02:12 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We’re thinking about it. Illinois gun laws are actually getting better right now, so that’s not the main argument. It’s more the culture. My daughter can’t find a decent conservative guy to date. I work with a gay guy in the office who brags about how he has abused the representative process in Springfield to advance gay marriage. Our machine politics is basically a one-party system with two changes of clothes, so everyone is just numb with fatalism. People and jobs are fleeing the state in droves. I just don’t want to be the last guy out, the one who gets to turn out the lights. Don’t want to wait for that.

So we’re looking at Missouri right now. Wife won’t go to Texas. Too hot. No North Dakota either. Too cold. Sigh. We’ll figure something out.


19 posted on 01/01/2014 2:56:47 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Don’t get mad, but I’m going to ask you and all the other people here who still live in New York, Connecticut, Illinois, New Jersey and California one thing: Why the hell are you still there?

I left CT, and then IL. My friends and family members in CT largely have older relatives to look after. Some have good jobs that would be hard to replace.

Leaving IL was hard for us largely because we lost $100K of equity in our home almost overnight.
25 posted on 01/01/2014 3:18:31 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (Five years, my brain hurts a lot.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t leave out Colorado. This is not a rustic state run by old fashioned ranchers. The old fashioned ones have been cleaned out and driven out by big shots from the northeast and west coast.


31 posted on 01/01/2014 3:32:59 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah. It’s hard to wrap my head around the fact that my countrymen are criminals for having an object that I own many of.


38 posted on 01/01/2014 4:14:00 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Don’t get mad, but I’m going to ask you and all the other people here who still live in New York, Connecticut, Illinois, New Jersey and California one thing: Why the hell are you still there?

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Let us suppose that all of the citizens of those states moved to Texas. What do you think would happen?

40 posted on 01/01/2014 4:21:46 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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