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To: meatloaf
......(1) how did an illegal get a valid SS card; (2) how many have the same number? (3) How hard is it for the feds to check for multiple SS card use?

BACKSTORY Just before the Senate immigration reform procedural vote, Judiciary Committee member Sen Grassley offered a simple amendment to the Judiciary Committee considering voting the immigration bill out of commmittee.

"The secretary (of homeland security) may not grant registered provisional immigrant status to an alien under this section unless the alien fully discloses to the secretary all the names and Social Security account numbers that the alien has ever used to obtain employment in the United States," said Grassley's amendment.

Grassley's amendment would not have prohibited illegal aliens from being converted into legal aliens just because they had used names and Social Security numbers that did not belong to them. It would only have required that the illegal aliens make the names and numbers they used known to DHS before they could be granted the right to legally live in the United States.

Grassley said, "Congress should not thumb its nose at the millions of Americans who are victims of identity theft, often perpetrated by an undocumented person who steals Social Security numbers to get jobs, govt benefits, driver's licenses and more. This amendment will simply require the person applying for RPI status to disclose any previously used Social Security numbers," said Grassley. "It's the first step to helping clean up the mess that's been created for the victim of identity theft. The amendment also authorizes certain federal agencies, upon receipt of this information, to notify individuals who were the victims."

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ON RECORD AS AIDING AND AETTING FELONIES Dismissing Sen Grassley's proposal, ranking Dem member Sen Schumer said: "When people are living in undocumented status, there are times, I suppose, when they've made up identities, made up Social Security numbers. How are they going to remember all that? (The) purpose of this bill is to bring people out of the shadows. We all know when they lived in the shadows, they had to forge documents, forge Social Security numbers, et cetera. I just don't see how, when you've lived here 10 years, and you've had many different identities, many different numbers, you're going to remember them all," said Schumer. The Senate Judiciary committee defeated Grassley's amendment 8 to 10 on a party-line vote.

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The Senate "reform" bill also absolves latinos holding US public office---from prosecution for wrongdoing while in office for stuff like government fraud, graft, bribery, selling their votes for cash....all the usual politician crimes.

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The Senate immigration “reform” bill includes two "neverending slush funds” amounting to hundreds of millions of tax dollars, earmarked for tax-exempt La Raza organizations.

LA RAZA TEACHING HATE-AMERICA WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS "La Raza Studies" do not even try to sugar-coat its anti-America agenda and its bloodthirsty plans to kill off Americans: Raza Studies textbook “Occupied America,” by Rodolfo Acuña, includes a violent and blood-curdling speech given by university professor Jose Angel Gutierrez: “We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is, if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him,” (pg. 323). The following is taken directly from La Raza's Occupied America: “.......execute all white males over age 16,” (p 167--AKA the Plan of San Diego).

America-hating Raza Studies teach (1) violence, (2) undermining US ntl security, and, (3) the need for Mexico to "re- take seven states in the Southwest...in order to make the SW a Chicano nation."

9 posted on 12/31/2013 2:18:57 PM PST by Liz
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To: Liz

Ahhh don’t they file their taxes using those fake SS numbers in which they get those refunds which belong to someone else? The person they stole the SS number from? That is how they remember all the numbers they use....

Lot of stories out there where folks refund has been stolen because someone stole their SS# and then filed taxes. The thief gets the refund while the victim has to go through red tape to prove who they are and that their SS# was stolen and almost impossible to get a new SS #....


22 posted on 12/31/2013 3:44:03 PM PST by Engedi
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To: Liz; All

That “forging” will get an American citizen penalized up to 250,000 and five years for a fake SS card. If Illegals wants the same “rights”, jail their rears and fine them, then deport. Anyone who is here illegally and not complied with laws, tax fraud, SS fraud, ID theft, ID fraud, Selective Service avoidance (law requires illegals to comply), will NEVER be eligible for American citizenship nor benefits. Legal Immigrants are deported for felony convictions. The ones that haven’t committed the above offenses, should only be allowed a VISA, renewed yearly only if they OBEY ALL LAWS, no fraud/false ID’s, and no working under the table, must PAY INCOME TAXES and all applicable taxes. They can live as Legal Residents and American citizens do and be criminally and civilly liable as all American citizens and Legal Residents/Legal Immigrants are. No get-out-of-jail free cards or blatant violation of the Equal Protection Clause for Illegal Immigrants. They either can live with being yearly-renewable-Visa Residents or go back to their home country. Period. I’m sick of this pandering to a criminal crowd, particular ethnicity or skin pigment.


31 posted on 12/31/2013 7:06:58 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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