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To: reaganaut1
they need to lower their sights and/or be willing to move to an area with more job openings.

Love to hear this type of advice from people who have not even walked a step in the shoes of the unemployed in THIS job market.

For some jobs, there have been several hundred applicants and more per opening. Watch the JOLT report for an aggregate number. Saying "just move" sounds nice, but moving cross country costs many thousands of dollars and is not good advice in a piss poor job market. Who is to say the new job they land out there will not simply evaporate? Then all that money spent moving is for not.

I do not wish ill on people but I do wish many who do not see things as they are will be put in that situation someday.
4 posted on 12/28/2013 5:56:53 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I can’t seem to find the part of the constitution that requires the federal government to pay nearly two years of unemployment benefits.


15 posted on 12/28/2013 6:03:42 AM PST by impimp
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To: Red in Blue PA
Dallas, Texas
http://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=&l=76102

Denton, Texas
http://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=&l=76208

Des Moines, Iowa
http://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=&l=50309

Austin, Texas
http://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=&l=78701

17 posted on 12/28/2013 6:05:01 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I have wondered if it could be beneficial for there to be a website that works similar to match.com. People with spare rooms could sign up to a site and people who are looking to try a new job across country could rent a room for a reasonable amount while testing a job.


29 posted on 12/28/2013 6:13:20 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Paying the non working for 2 years vs 6 months changes absolutely nothing in the equation. Make it 5 years-changes nothing.
Perhaps one reason there are so many illegals coming to grab low level jobs is that there is some credence to the axiom, “doing the jobs Americans won’t do?”

Not bashing the unemployed but keeping Americans enabled to not be in the workforce is/has contributed to this entire problem.


30 posted on 12/28/2013 6:13:46 AM PST by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I don’t wish people ill either. But 99 weeks on unemployment is absolutely ridiculous.

The max it should be is 52 weeks (1 year). When people feel comfortable, they are less motivated to take action. I’m sure there are some people who, perhaps subconsciously, don’t work as hard finding a job ‘cause they know the benefits are there. The longer you are out of the workforce, the more your skills and attitude atrophy.

99 weeks of unemployment isn’t doing anyone a big favor.


43 posted on 12/28/2013 6:19:57 AM PST by rbg81
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To: Red in Blue PA
I do not wish ill on people but I do wish many who do not see things as they are will be put in that situation someday.

I am one who was in this situation being a electronics tech. for over 30 years I saw the repair business of the electronics field going to a throw away society. The company I worked for (sears) closed the shop I was working in so I took my severance pay and started looking for other work finding none in my field or repair I went to a job fair and applied and got a job driving over the road trucking, schooling was paid by a grant from the lottery all I had to pay was $20 for the application form spent weeks in training still surviving on my severances pay and went to work for a company out of Tenn. Stayed with them for little over a year and left for a local job in town having over a year experience was hired that day and stayed with them till I retired 8 years ago. Everyday in our local paper their are at least 10 jobs going unanswered it can and was done you have to get off your butt and go out and search. Not sit home and send emails to company's, go face to face show them you WANT to work.

57 posted on 12/28/2013 6:29:15 AM PST by bikerman (Obama! if his lips are moving he's lying.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
For some jobs, there have been several hundred applicants and more per opening.

In the old days, being called in for an interview meant that you were qualified, and they wanted to see what your personlality was like. You had a 50/50 shot.

That's changed. At least 10 people have been called in for interviews for every job that I've been interviewed for. You have to be an exact match for the job to be hired.

68 posted on 12/28/2013 6:35:44 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I look at Unemployment Checks as Air Vouchers from a soon to be bankrupt airline at their exclusive terminal.

The Airline is overbooking with limited flights (Lousy Economy) and hand you an air voucher for bumping you from the flight.....problem is that all the limited flights are overbooked (unemployment rate) -so they just keep handing out air vouchers (Unemployment checks) to the people sitting in the concourse waiting to get on a plane.

Some people will go home (quit looking for a job)
Some people will rent a car (go into business themselves)
Some people will take a bus (lower paying job)
Some people will get on another overbooked flight (get the same type of job they had)
Some people will just keep sitting at the concourse (welfare, SSDI)


69 posted on 12/28/2013 6:36:13 AM PST by libertarian27 (FreeRepublic Cookbooks 2011 & 2012 - Click Profile)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I was in that situation back in the 80’s. It was worse than today. There were NO jobs. Therefore you made your own. Been self employed since. Learned to survive the ups and downs by being practical and doing whatever it took.
“Find a need and fill it!” There may not be ‘jobs’ available, but there is WORK to be done. Unless people start moving (as in take action) there will never be any improvement.
My experience this time is that people want a job but they don’t want to work.


80 posted on 12/28/2013 7:02:19 AM PST by griswold3 (Post-Christian America is living on borrowed moral heritage)
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To: Red in Blue PA

“For some jobs, there have been several hundred applicants and more per opening. Watch the JOLT report for an aggregate number. Saying “just move” sounds nice, but moving cross country costs many thousands of dollars and is not good advice in a piss poor job market. Who is to say the new job they land out there will not simply evaporate? Then all that money spent moving is for not.”

Weekly benefits run from ~$133/wk in Puerto Rico to over $600 in several states. That money is pouring out of the treasury. At some point, (29 weeks? 99 weeks?) you have to stop and say, enough. Where should the line be drawn?

Should nothing be required in return for this largess? I might be more supportive if there was some sort of requirement from the recipients in return. Mop floors or cut grass or pick up trash. Maybe not for the first few weeks which was paid by insurance but for perpetually extended handouts?


85 posted on 12/28/2013 7:17:12 AM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Exactly, try and sell your house in this market if you still have one.

I can also blame it on a current government that meddles far too much in our everyday lives and is largely responsible for the horrible economic conditions out there. They are also working to prolong them at every turn.


86 posted on 12/28/2013 7:19:26 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Who is to say the new job they land out there will not simply evaporate? Then all that money spent moving is for not.

Back around 2005 I knew a guy who lost his job with a company here in the Detroit area. He then went to work for a contractor that ultimately sent him to North Carolina where he had to rent an apartment for about 6 months and drive home to see the wife whenever he could.

Since he had to spend money on the apartment, he and his wife had to sell their home and move to a lower scale house in Warren.

So after about 6 to 8 months in NC, his contracting job was coming to an end and the company they were contracting with offered him a job. He and his wife talked it over and ultimately he turned it down and came home to Detroit. It was a good thing he did because 4 months later that company took a turn for the worse and was forced to lay off half of its engineering workforce.

Jobs were hard to find (still are) and he worked at Best Buy for a while until he found work with another contractor that sent him to Germany. After a few months away from home, he finally couldn't take the separation and had to quit.

At 58 years old, the reality is there aren't many employers willing to hire you and like you said, to sell your house, pack up and move to another state in the HOPES of finding permanent work is not a viable financial option.

92 posted on 12/28/2013 7:40:15 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Miss Muffit suffered from arachnophobia.....)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Sitting around for two years on unemployment and not really giving a rip about finding a job lulls one into a state of torpor. “I’ll look for something tomorrow’’. There are jobs out there. They may not be corporate level but you won’t starve. Heck, I’m working two jobs right now. Nothing wrong with work if it’s honest. Pride be damned.


95 posted on 12/28/2013 7:42:27 AM PST by jmacusa ("Chasing God out of the classroom didn't usher in The Age of Reason''.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Thanks for saying that. It’s not only expensive to “just move” but it takes people away from friends, family, etc. (which to some may not be a big deal, but is very important to other)

How about we cut regulations and curtail lawyers before we start putting pressure on working folk.


97 posted on 12/28/2013 7:43:55 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Red in Blue PA

This isn’t Reagan’s economy, that’s for sure.


117 posted on 12/28/2013 12:28:09 PM PST by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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