Posted on 12/27/2013 2:55:58 PM PST by ConservativeInPA
Females in the Marine Corps will not have to meet the physical fitness standard--set to go into effect as of January --of being able to do at least three pull-ups, the Corps quietly announced on social media.
Unlike their female counterparts, male Marines have long been required to do at least 3 pullups.
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So much for the “first to fight” slogan.
Written in a positive tone - you would say “I am OK with women in the militray in roles such as ______ and ______ .” Just curious.
My answer pertains to the USMC. I have spent a good deal of time on the ships of the US Navy and have worked along side Army & Air Force personnel but I will not attempt to speak for those services.
The problem with answering your very courteous request is that all of my combat training & experience was under the philosophy, "Every Marine a rifleman, every Marine lieutenant a rifle platoon commander."
While at The Basic School in Quantico, my wife & I made the formal courtesy call on the XO and his wife at their quarters. Since I was headed to Pensacola for flight school after learning, at the Basic School, to be an infantry platoon commander, Col Skinner, an F-8 pilot (he took a lot of the low level photos of the Russian missiles in Cuba at the start of the Cuban Missile Crisis) gave me the fatherly talk he delivered to all the wanta-be hot-shot Marine pilots.
Emphasis was on my primary role in commanding Marines in ground combat. He told of his experience in Vietnam where he ended up being the G-3 (Operations Officer) for the 3rd Marine Division. A "jet jock" running the day to day operation of a Marine Infantry Division in the middle of a war. He mentioned that he had two Regimental G-3s under him and two rifle company commanders (in the bush) who were all pilots. The unspoken message: "Pay attention during your time here at the Basic School, Lieutenant. One day you very well may be responsible for the lives hundreds or even thousands of fellow Marines. You, too, may be in the mud, getting shot at "up close & personal."
Any Marine must be able to fill the role of rifleman or rifle platoon/company/etc. commander, if necessary. Clerks, cooks, Motor Transport, Jet Jock, Helo Pilot.
"Where do women fit in this picture?"
They don't.
I do, they need to be returned to where they used to be, out of the way.
Females slow up everything in the field, and cannot function like men.
Yet the researchers can't find them or even create them.
Twenty is a lot in one set.
Guys with the right build and weight have advantages in pull ups. For example, you take a wiry guy who weighs about 150 lbs with some upper body strength should be able to do more pull ups than a guy who has the same strength or more but weighs 200 lbs.
Fifty lbs more in weight on each pull up gives the wiry guy an advantage of 500 lbs less weight to pull in ten pull ups for each guy. Hard to beat physics.
Yes, I would agree with that, women often become excellent shots.
Hundred year old men can shoot, so can 8 year old girls, but they can’t get to where the shooting needs to be done from, with the gear needed, and participate in and complete the missions that need to be done, they can’t replace a warrior.
This old guy (WWII vet)is still sniper qualified for a guerrilla group or something, but he isn’t still capable of helping us in the military.
“”85-year-old U.S. Army sniper veteran proves he hasn’t lost his skills as he picks off a target at 1,000 yards””
I am not sure what your saying? Well, they did. They were in the gym very often, at least 1 time a day. They started using bands, pullup with their heals in front of them and gym equipment that developed the womens upper body strength. When they were first in the unit, they couldn’t even hang from the bar very long.
Yes, I made that point in an earlier post.
“”2,588 pull-ups later, injury suspends record bid
After five and a half hours and 2,588 pull-ups in his attempt to set a 24-hour Guinness world record in our studio, Navy SEAL David Goggins tore a muscle in his forearm. But victory was his, as he raised more than $10,000 for the Special Operations Warrior Foundation.””
My dad and middle son are former Marines.
I actually agree with you. I would not want 99.99% of women in a combat arms roles, and neither do I want them to be a ‘rifleman.’
women combat Marines and women submariners are just bad ideas. ;-)
My sister can kick your brother's ass because she's A US MARINE!!!
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