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Paul Ryan & the GOP Must Own the Cuts to Veterans Benefits
Red State ^ | 18 Dec 13 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 12/26/2013 1:24:21 PM PST by SkyPilot

Republicans in the Senate want to restore veterans benefits to the Paul Ryan – Patty Murray Budget plan.

Harry Reid is blocking the amendment so Republicans are blaming Harry Reid for cutting veterans benefits.

That is intellectually dishonest of the GOP.

Paul Ryan, a Republican, drafted the plan with Patty Murray, a Democrat.

House Republicans overwhelming approved the plan before it even made it to Harry Reid for a vote. The Republicans could have restored the cuts themselves in the House. Instead, they voted for the plan with the cuts to veterans benefits and went home.

Were Harry Reid to restore the cuts, he’d need to get the House back from Christmas vacation.

Republicans are going to have to own this. Paul Ryan drafted it. John Boehner pushed it through and didn’t give even the 72 hours he promised he’d give for people to look through his legislation. Maybe had John Boehner spent more time reading through the legislation instead of blasting conservatives for opposing cuts to veterans’ benefits and tax increases he could have done something.

Veterans, including veterans disabled due to war injuries, are going to get screwed in the legislation.

This is not Harry Reid’s fault. This is Paul Ryan’s fault, John Boehner’s fault, and the House Republicans’ fault. They rushed the plan through without fixing it. To blame Harry Reid for what they themselves did is just crass partisan politics.

Made worse, it is partisan politics on the backs of veterans — that’s something the Democrats usually do.

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: budget; circularfiringsquad; paulryan; pensions; veterans
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To: aomagrat

Depending on amnesty, I might still vote for my representative, Doug Collins (GA-09). But Johnny Isakson has got his last vote for me.
Chambliss is retiring or I wouldn’t vote for him. I am hoping Paul Broun replaces him.


21 posted on 12/26/2013 2:15:52 PM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Innovative
Great idea! Let’s make sure our Republican Senators and Reps get defeated and hand over victory to the Dems.

I cannot support Democrats, because of my Christian beliefs. They are the party that booed God and Israel at their convention. They are the party of child murder, homosexuality, and covetousness.

But if the Republican party thinks they can take advantage of me and other military veterans, they are insane.

22 posted on 12/26/2013 2:17:06 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Innovative
Yes, of course this is all the Republicans’ fault, not the Dems’, naturally

You don't want to admit it (obviously) but the betrayal of our currently serving military, disabled military, and current military retirees is definitely the fault of Paul Ryan. Boehner gave Ryan carte blanche, and even when this outrageous provision was in the "deal" he allowed it to come up for a vote. Moreover, there is NO WAY that the GOP leadership was not privy to what Ryan/Murray concocted before it was finalized.

As I said, the Democrats in the Senate would not even allow Ammendments, so they are evil as well. So is Murray for hatching this deal that has her name on it.

What separates you and I is you still have GOP Rose Colored Glasses on. I no longer do.

23 posted on 12/26/2013 2:22:01 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: kenmcg
His stand on cutting vets benefits will prove to be his albatross.

If he or his staff is reading the comments to new articles nationwide on the military pension cuts, Ryan has now surpassed Obama as the most hated politician on the planet. At least for now. Moreover, the military pension screw job has eclipsed the scandal of ObamaCare for many true Conservatives, and it will continue to do so unless the Republicans rectify the situation.

24 posted on 12/26/2013 2:24:49 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot; Diddle E. Squat

There are only TWO, count them TWO options — R or D. PERIOD, as Obama would say.

Ronald Reagan on the importance of political compromise(in his own words)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/960104/posts

“When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn’t like it.

“Compromise” was a dirty word to them and they wouldn’t face the fact that we couldn’t get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don’t get it all, some said, don’t take anything.

“I’d learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: ‘I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.’

“If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that’s what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.


25 posted on 12/26/2013 2:25:35 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative
"If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that’s what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it."

We're not getting 5% of what we're asking for.

26 posted on 12/26/2013 2:28:38 PM PST by Flag_This (Liberalism: Kills countries dead.)
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To: SkyPilot

Ryan = Soetoro dum fock.


27 posted on 12/26/2013 2:35:45 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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Ryan: “I’d be willing to agree to screw veterans.”

Murray: “Are you shi...I mean, are you kidding me? Looks like we’re in agreement.”

Then she calls Reid: “You’re going to be majority leader for a long time.”


28 posted on 12/26/2013 2:40:31 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: SkyPilot

When you spend twice what you bring in in taxes, your government is twice the size it should be.

But I have yet to see one, even one, Repub who is willing to speak up and call for a real reduction in the size, scope, and reach of government. They’ll pat themselves on the back for a reduction in the increase spread out over a couple of decades and think I should be proud of them.

But there isn’t anyone who is prepared to argue for, not a reduction in the increase, not even a reduction in the budget, but a reduction in the size and scope and reach of government. And act on it.


29 posted on 12/26/2013 2:56:58 PM PST by marron
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To: Innovative
I understand compromise. I was one of the few around here who got shouted down when I said it would be a stupid political move to shut the government down in October. I said then, and I understand now, that the GOP does not control the Senate, nor the White House.

But I am done giving a blank check to the Republican party, especially to traitors like Paul Ryan. I am not an abused spouse who gets beaten up, and then apologizes to the abuser for causing it all.

The GOP today is not the party of Reagan. Can you imagine what Ronald Reagan would say to Paul Ryan's betrayal of our men and women in uniform?

30 posted on 12/26/2013 3:17:00 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

The GOP must first own what they’ve allowed this country to rot and not lifted one finger.


31 posted on 12/26/2013 3:46:41 PM PST by bgill
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To: SkyPilot

Paul Ryan got played by the Democrats. No person that stupid should be re-elected.


32 posted on 12/26/2013 3:46:42 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SkyPilot

Past time for RINOs to order packing boxes.


33 posted on 12/26/2013 4:36:25 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: marron

“I am embarrassed for the GOP. And they just don’t quit, they keep looking for ways to make me sorry I’m still technically GOP.”

Why be embarassed? There is no law that says you have to vote, let alone be a member of the gop wing of the uniparty.


34 posted on 12/26/2013 5:02:12 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: Innovative

It illustrates the great failure of American politics. Even is a fiscal conservative till it’s their turn.


35 posted on 12/26/2013 5:25:39 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: SkyPilot
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"Rot in Hell ..."


soon to be ex-congressman Paul Ryan ...


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36 posted on 12/26/2013 6:14:05 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne (Swine Piss be upon the Sodmite Obama, and his Child-Rapist False Prophet Mohammed)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Ryan is in WI, and Demos may back him to keep him there to curry favor with the opposition party.


37 posted on 12/26/2013 7:12:18 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Some conservatives these Republicans are:

[Michele] Bachmann Takes Heat From Veterans’ Group for Proposing Benefits Cuts
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/29/bachmann-takes-heat-veterans-group-proposing-benefits-cuts/


38 posted on 12/26/2013 8:32:13 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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