Posted on 12/23/2013 8:41:52 AM PST by kronos77
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And technically they are AKMs. There were only between 200 and 300 AK-47's produced for evaluation and several design changes were incorporated for reliability and efficiency of production that resulted in the weapon we know today.
Many of them liked to hear themselves talk. I mostly gravitated to the ones that did a lot of experimentation and could show their findings on paper. Keith, Waters, Grennell, Jurras, Harvey, Pope, Ackley, etc. fit into that category among many others.
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Man, I can’t get anything straight today!
“I read, years ago, that the M-1 Carbine was really a rimless a .32/20 pistol round.”
IIRC it was a derivative of the 32 Winchester Self-loading rifle round.
And as Werner von Braun said, “Our Germans are better than their Germans.”
Now that is hilarious!
There are lots of arguments about the M-1 Carbine and the MP-43.
Certainly the M-1 carbine had been captured by the Germans in 1942 in its self loading configuration.
Certainly the M-1 Carbine was issued in 1944 in a fully automatic version with a 30 round magazine.
Oddly, both had the same cartridge length: 33 mm. Heavier rounds with the same velocity have longer range. US Carbine round gave up both weight and velocity to the German 7.92x33 round.
The German M43 round (125 grain bullet, 7.92x33K) was bottlenecked and gave slightly higher velocity ~2,250 fps per Wikipedia. The 7.62x33 US round was lighter and slower velocity (110 grain, 1,990 fps).
By contrast the Soviet M-43 round (7.62x39) was slightly lighter, and faster (123 grain bullet 2,421 fps).
I have on my wish list a broom handle mauser that will fire the M-1 Carbine round. The original broom handle Mauser couldn’t take the recoil, but springs are better these days, and I hope some designer would take a shot at it.
(The original .30 Mauser had an 86 grain bullet and 1450 fps round) The broom handle Mauser was designed for roughly the same thing as the M-1 Carbine: An officer, cavalry, or artillery crew auxiliary weapon that wouldn’t get in the way, but could be used in emergencies at short range.
It will overheat. You can set the foreend grips on fire if you work at it.
These guys were using originals heh, since I think they’ve tightened up tolerances and they’ve been improved dramatically.
I haven’t yet hunted with my battle rifle, but looking forward to nailing some coyotes at 500 yards or more.
At any rate, thanks for your service brother.
I have the rifle that takes best of the AK and best of the AR, if you’re up in Alberta ever let me know, I’ll show you:-)
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Ahhhh! OK! I thought it did because the OP excerpted it.
Thanks!
My wife grew up in the eastern Ukraine and in 6th grade she was field stripping the AK-47 in class and putting it back together. In the 8th grade she had to do it at a faster pace. She was a Lenin Pioneer back in those days but is quite the Palin person today. So naturally I had to give her a ribbon and bow covered AK-47 for Valentine's Day a few years back.
And like my tagline states she is...
/johnny
The write-up for the Medal of Honor awarded to George Mabry describes him using an M-1 carbine to take a series of German defensive works in the Hurtgen Forest. So when fired masterfully as by that South Carolina hunter it could be quite a weapon.
Thanks for the invite. I and the First lady would be honored...of course it would have to be during the summer.
8^)
5.56mm
It shoots EVERY TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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