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This is just another income redistribution scheme. Lots of good numerical info in the article.

And of course, while they are quoting the % who got private coverage, it's easy to calculate that the rest are getting Medicaid:

CA -- 53%; CO -- 83%, CT 39%, MN -- 29%, RI -- 67%, WA -- 89%. These are scary numbers -- Medicaid was never intended to cover such huge numbers of people.

1 posted on 12/22/2013 12:46:52 AM PST by Innovative
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“The weighted average across all the states shows that only 36% of those who have signed up (but not necessarily paid for) Obamacare, were put on private plans.”

In other words 64% will be on Medicaid!!!!


2 posted on 12/22/2013 12:49:15 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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Cloward-Piven.

Let’s hope Putin can restore our freedom.


3 posted on 12/22/2013 1:31:25 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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The rats intend to collapse Medicaid. The rats also intend to collapse Medicare. The rats are intending for both Medicaid and Medicare to wither on the vine. Single payer is the goal and complete control of the Health Care portion of the economy is the goal. Once single payer is the law and because the supreme court classified payments as a tax, just like many other countries having socialized medicine considered the contributions as a tax, the system eventually collapses. Someone was joking with several people the other day and said ... Well I once had insurance with a reasonable deductible, now I have none. I once could afford to have the basics of life. Now I have a tremendously high deductible and if I become sick, all the basics I once could afford go to pay for my high insurance deductible. Is going to be fun dying from starvation. The whole group laughed at the person speaking; some a bit nervously because they too have joined this person in the same boat of high deductibles.


4 posted on 12/22/2013 1:33:19 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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"This is just another income redistribution scheme.

Well DUH! Which turnip truck did you just fall off of?/sarc

;-)

5 posted on 12/22/2013 1:33:47 AM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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He goes on vacation, the regime goes on holiday knowing they lit the fuse


9 posted on 12/22/2013 2:35:35 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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Even more revealing are the choices being made by consumers who don’t qualify for subsidies. Almost 40% of these folks are selecting gold and platinum plans. Without the benefit of government subsidies, these plans are very pricey.

So who would be willing to pay up for this coverage?

Some are undoubtedly upper middle class and wealthy consumers who were thrown off their prior coverage once insurers cancelled their existing health plans in the individual market. They want the costlier coverage because, while the networks and formularies don’t improve over cheaper plans, the co-insurance often does.

But a healthy fraction of this cohort who are buying up to Gold are undoubtedly middle class folks who are paying more for better coverage because they have medical conditions, and know that they will need to access the healthcare services.

If you plan to consume a lot of healthcare, it makes sense to buy a platinum plan. That way, through the co-insurance that some of these plans offer, you can offload a bigger chunk of your medical costs as possible onto the government.

Well, DUH! This is basic microeconomics at work. It's the predictable result when a bill with huge economic impact is written by people with absolutely no business experience.

12 posted on 12/22/2013 2:58:45 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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And those people “put on Medicaid” have no idea how much risk they really took onto their family in the form of Estate Recovery.

If they are part of the ‘working poor’ and say the meager bread winner gets seriously ill and dies...the government will come after the survivors to recover those costs.

This leaves the family entirely vulnerable to utter destitution. This whole eventuality that people are not fully aware of makes me sick.


22 posted on 12/22/2013 5:42:56 AM PST by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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Sebelius threat to kick insurers off the exchange are going to be hollow. The exchanges are concentrating sick and poor people in their pool. The prices will continue to rise such that even those qualifying for subsidies will have trouble paying the ever higher premiums and deductibles. Of those insurers remaining, they will have to get even more money from the Feds.
Obama will respond by throwing out more money, extending deadlines, and granting more exemptions. All these actions will be unconstitutional, confusing, and contradictory. States need to fill the void by protecting their citizens from the mandate/penalty, and encouraging the sale of non-conforming health insurance.


26 posted on 12/22/2013 7:47:10 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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Now they simply increase the eligibility limit for medicare until nearly everyone eligible and we have de facto single payer.


27 posted on 12/22/2013 7:59:06 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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