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Why the Latest Obamacare Delay Is the Biggest One Yet
TIME ^ | December 20, 2013 | By Kate Pickert

Posted on 12/21/2013 6:18:19 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

When fairness goes out the window, you know politics has caused the White House to take its Obamacare scramble to a whole new level. The administration said Thursday night that people with canceled policies will not be subject to the individual mandate in 2014. This is huge, but you wouldn’t know it from Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius’ letter announcing the change, which she sent in response to senators worried that those who saw their health insurance policies canceled this fall did not “consider” Obamacare replacement policies to be affordable.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: failure; kingobama; nomorelaw; obamacare; rinocare; socialism; tyrantinside
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We now make law not in congress, but by letters from the administration to political allies. It's right there in the constitution -- the constitution of Venezuela.
1 posted on 12/21/2013 6:18:19 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Ted Cruz was right.


2 posted on 12/21/2013 6:18:59 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I think I am correct that all this does is remove the potential penalty for not having insurance.

Those that lost their policies are still not allowed to buy anything but what the King has decreed is acceptable.


3 posted on 12/21/2013 6:22:48 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Actually Lord Barack gave the peons permission to buy bare-bones catastrophic plans—the kind that are illegal under Obamacare. Where they’re supposed to find illegal plans to buy at this stage of the game is unknown.


4 posted on 12/21/2013 6:29:47 AM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Obama and the Democrats destroyed my health insurance policy (I got the notice in October). Nothing he or they can do will change my smoldering rage over that intentional vicious act against me and my family. Cruella can write all the letters she wants. My mind is dead set against them and I will spend whatever funds are needed or my time donated to see they are tossed out of office.

The Left has underestimated, in my opinion, the personal outrage of those of us who have been mistreated by the "individual mandate" and what will happen when this whole monstrosity goes into effect and 100 million more policies are cancelled.

Those of us who have to write a check each month for these god awful policies that are being mandated will be reminded of Obama's personal attack upon us. A pox on him.

5 posted on 12/21/2013 6:40:45 AM PST by Lawgvr1955 (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I still have the same question...how is any of this legal?

How can these people just say the law is changed and it gets upheld in a court?

This is a huge catch 22 in the courts when anybody goes along with what this administration changes daily instead of what is written in the law is it not??????

Somebody please explain.

6 posted on 12/21/2013 8:24:55 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Lawgvr1955

Beginning Jan. 1st, we will have no health care. Probably for the rest of our life. I make that last statement because I believe the country itself is only going to slide farther and farther down the slope of catastrophe for the foreseeable future, as it has been doing since 2006.


7 posted on 12/21/2013 8:35:34 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf

health care = health care insurance.


8 posted on 12/21/2013 8:36:13 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Lady Heron

“I still have the same question...how is any of this legal?”

I still have that question too. It’s become completely egregious and I can only see it ending one way, with the repeal and replacement of Obamacare.

However, I’m pretty sure this is all setting a very bad precedent. And it cannot be that the only things that matter are the things the media gets its knickers in a twist over.


9 posted on 12/21/2013 8:42:09 AM PST by jocon307
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To: cuban leaf
We've probably reached the point where someone with no insurance is better off than someone with a miserable high-premium, high-deductible plan, anyway.

And here's what is most comical of all ...

The guy who swam across the Rio Grande a few months ago, has no Social Security number, works off the books for cash, and operates outside the scrutiny of the IRS and the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, is among the last free men in the United States of America.

10 posted on 12/21/2013 9:45:34 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It will never work until single payer is offered to fix the problem.


11 posted on 12/21/2013 9:50:11 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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My premium would be higher than my car payment and my payments on both my real estate loans. It would be over 10% of my GROSS income here.

It’s not gonna happen. But I’ll never pay a penalty because I always owe the IRS at the end of the year.


12 posted on 12/21/2013 10:24:28 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: bmwcyle

Do you think they are this clever to intentionally screw up so all premiums rise, then offer a low-cost $1000 per citizen per year no deductible insurance via single payer?


13 posted on 12/21/2013 10:58:06 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Single payer was the plan from the start.


14 posted on 12/21/2013 11:01:30 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Question.....will this apply to those who will have their policy cancelled IN THE FUTURE? LIKE 2014, WHEN THE EMPLOYER POLICIES WILL DIE?


15 posted on 12/21/2013 11:05:40 AM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Lady Heron
How can these people just say the law is changed and it gets upheld in a court?

I've been wondering the same thing.

The trick is to get it in front of a court in the first place.

Who will have standing to say they were harmed? What is the "harm" in the first place? Is it the loss of health care insurance, the lack of ability to get helath care insurance, or the loss of constitutional rights of representation from executive usurpation?

I say that the harm is the latter one. Why vote for a Congressman if the President can override duly passed law on a whim? Every person who votes for a Congressman is harmed each time Obama arbitrarily overrides a law.

Who can bring that case to the Court?

-PJ

16 posted on 12/21/2013 11:10:17 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Alberta's Child

The guy who swam across the Rio Grande a few months ago, has no Social Security number, works off the books for cash, and operates outside the scrutiny of the IRS and the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, is among the last free men in the United States of America.

WORTH REPEATING THANK YOU


17 posted on 12/21/2013 11:16:58 AM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: txrefugee

You will never hear that on Television,or that republicans have been right about the buffoon in The White Hut


18 posted on 12/21/2013 12:15:22 PM PST by ballplayer
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To: Lady Heron

The Republican majority could stop it by defunding it but as we have seen the leadership doesn’t have the backbone to do it.


19 posted on 12/21/2013 12:21:09 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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The Republican majority could stop it by defunding it but as we have seen the leadership doesn’t have the backbone to do it.

While I supported defunding, we got a major break because lack of funding would have been blamed for the website, disorganization, etc.

...and you know the MSM would have trumpeted it from the rooftops!

This 100% Democrat-written and passed legislation now hangs 100% around the Democrats' necks.

20 posted on 12/21/2013 2:32:29 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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