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N. Korea: Is Kim Jong-un a Puppet of Hardline Brass?
Chosun Ilbo ^ | 2013/12/19

Posted on 12/18/2013 10:26:27 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Is Kim Jong-un a Puppet of Hardline Brass?

Speculation is growing that hardline North Korean generals were behind the execution of leader Kim Jong-un's uncle Jang Song-taek and that Kim was merely their pawn.

That would be worrying for South Korea, which would face an increased threat of military provocations.

Park Hyung-joong at the Korea Institute for National Unification said Jang's purge was part of a power struggle where factions in the military that Jang had stripped of their lucrative businesses tried to regain them.

Forces opposed to Jang, who was seen as a moderate, used a purported challenge to Kim's sole authority as an excuse to remove the eminence grise and regain control of their money-making operations.

If that is true, then the only faction strong enough to pull off such a plot is the powerful military.

Thomas Schafer, the German ambassador to North Korea, said recently that Kim was forced by the military to purge Jang and that he had "no choice."

Some experts believe that Kim is just a puppet being controlled by unseen forces. One former South Korean minister who had been in charge of diplomacy and national security affairs, told the Chosun Ilbo in a telephone interview, "Looking at Jang Song-taek's sentence and the events surrounding it, I wonder if Kim Jong-un is being pushed around by an unseen figure."

The crimes Jang was found guilty of, such as ruining the North Korean economy and living conditions of its people and attempting a coup d'état, would be seen as direct insults to the sanctity of the leader and considered taboo in North Korea, the official said.

Why would Kim risk weakening his support base by getting rid of his powerful uncle and guardian? One researcher at a state-run think tanks here said, "If there is a group of powerful figures who are controlling Kim Jong-un, it makes sense to use him because he has the legitimacy of his ancestry" as a direct descendant of nation founder Kim Il-sung.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: choe; dprk; dynasty; firingsquad; fishlips; jangsongtaek; military; nkorea; northkorea; purge; rodman; terror; treachery
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To: TigerLikesRooster

It would be interesting if true - the idea, that the dictatorship’s propaganda machine elevating the Kim’s to near godlike status as the “saviors” of the nation has created something so strong - in what the North Korean people believe - that even a powerful military cabal must keep it alive, at least for public consumption, as without it they will not be able to keep their own legitamacy in the public mind.

It also begs a question - what would such a cabal do if somehow all the Kims and all their heirs were somehow eliminated? Would it survive the loss of the Kims or would it lose control of the people?


21 posted on 12/19/2013 8:39:43 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Wuli

The military would survive a complete lack of Kims by inventing a new dynasty. Some hero of the Korean war would be found or created. And it would be done before the public learned of the death of the last Kim. And it would work.
The top goal of the UN should be the rescue of the North Korean people. The fact it isn’t clearly illustrates the worthlessness of the UN.


22 posted on 12/19/2013 9:01:28 AM PST by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Hey Tiger did you hear

Guess who arrived in North Korea earier today

Dennis Rodman he is backkk


23 posted on 12/19/2013 9:44:14 AM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: SevenofNine
I have NO objection to him going.

I only object to him returning to the USA.

24 posted on 12/19/2013 5:18:36 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: AdmSmith
General Choe. (He best not adopt the affectionate term "Uncle Choe" when addressed by the Great Short-donged, Fat One and Mrs. Pretty Murdress.)

I tell you, that place is one big frikkin crime syndicate, not even a nation in a standard sense.

25 posted on 12/19/2013 5:29:29 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: AmericanInTokyo

You’re correct, but those hats are still way cool....


26 posted on 12/19/2013 5:31:28 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: AmericanInTokyo

LOL that good one AIT like that

Yeah let TSA give him cavity search on way back LOL!


27 posted on 12/19/2013 5:34:59 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; SevenofNine; GeronL; AdmSmith

He, himself, could well be purged (like a bowel cavity purged of putrid diarreah) by lil’ Kim Jong Un, if he doesn’t VERY CAREFULLY mind his Ps and Qs from this day forward. Even the Short Fat One could conceivably get drunk at a Dennis Rodman welcoming party, become paranoid about this general for some reason, excuse himself first for a piss, and then matter-of-factly and in a Cognac stupor, sign a Korean Workers Party death warrant for Gen. Choe, commanding he too be punched and kicked and beaten while in custody like Jang (”Uncle Fishlips”), and thrown to the dogs for the whole of them to all be machine-gunned.


28 posted on 12/19/2013 5:36:02 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: AmericanInTokyo

OHH that be something I wonder if Chia Chub could handle his booze

I could imagine Chia Chub that guy from Sixteen candles the movie hitting on every girl especallly fat one

Fall from the tree LOL!


29 posted on 12/19/2013 5:38:47 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: All

I wonder who would find if Chia Chub get drunk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tktNZpUTMoQ


30 posted on 12/19/2013 5:42:22 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; TigerLikesRooster
YTN, just a few moments ago:

북한이 어제 남한 일부 보수단체의 반북 시위에 반발해 "예고 없이 타격하겠다"는 내용의 협박성 전화통지문을 보냈습니다. 정부 당국자는 북한이 국방위원회 명의로 어제 서해 군 통신선을 통해 우리 측에 통지문을 보냈다고 밝혔습니다. 통지문은 지난 17일 김정일 국방위원장 2주기를 맞아 서울에서 열린 보수단체들의 시위를 문제 삼았습니다. 앞서 지난 17일 서울에서는 대한민국 어버이연합과 남침용 땅굴을 찾는 사람들 등 5개 보수단체가 고모부인 장성택을 잔인하게 처형한 김정은 제1비서가 대남 위협에 나서고 있다며 김일성·김정일·김정은의 화형식을 했습니다. Provocative threats here and there from young Kim Jong Un toward South Korea it seems, showing his war swagger (to fortify his tenuous position), and barking on about how he can attack the South "without warning". This kid is big trouble. We need a special team on this guy, and I don't mean maybe (but then again the problem may be bigger than him, a larger faction that wants to go for broke with war on the peninsula)......

31 posted on 12/19/2013 5:44:47 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: AmericanInTokyo

It’s all fascinating and kind of worrying


32 posted on 12/19/2013 7:18:50 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL; TigerLikesRooster; SevenofNine; AdmSmith
Wen Weipo (newspaper) out of Hong Kong analyzes photos, and says that the Fat One has had his eyebrows "halfed" (shortened/shaved) to betray any appearance of instability or being upset at recent things, to also try to trim them downward to make him look stable, hardline and in control.

Somebody is winding this little duck up and making him paddle in the bathtub, methinks. I wonder the name/list of the Generals doing this?? Now they may tell him to launch an attack at the DMZ or upon islands near the NLL zone held by ROK off the coast. That would seem to be the next logical provocation.

PS He did to me look kind of "zoned out" at the big party meeting in the auditorium recalling the passing of his father, KJI, and this of course was after Kim Jong Un had sent us uncle out to be machinegunned. The oddest, drifting look on his face, his hands did not seem normal, either. I wonder if he is in control. Worried for his own skin. Those kinds of things. It must be that he is sleeping with an armed patrol stationed inside his room, but even then one would have to worry if one of those guards was "gotten to" by the highest bidder and could finish the pig and his wife with a couple of taps from a Tokarev auto pistol unholstered in the flash of a minute. He must have a fully loaded/chambered automatic piece under his pillow, or strapped to his upper arm, (over his pajamas) at night.

33 posted on 12/19/2013 8:28:51 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I think he/they almost have to launch some kind of attack and declare victory. I think any attack should be met with cruise missiles hitting the main police and military hq in Pyongyang.

The soldiers and people aren’t the real enemy of the ROK, the reprisal should be something that hits the big boys and makes it impossible for them to tell their people they won.


34 posted on 12/19/2013 8:43:42 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL
That's what a) bunker busters are for, and b) elaborate details and satellite survelliance, combined with defectors' reports, regarding the various underground bunkers constructed throughout the DPRK for the Kim Dynasty since grandfather's days. I believe Washinton and Seoul and Tokyo are one in the same at a quick decapitation strategy..

One GB-28 up your ass, and you can call it quits for the rest of the day; talk about Excedrin Headache Number 35!

35 posted on 12/19/2013 10:32:59 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: AmericanInTokyo
About this “eyebrow job,” my suspicion is on one of his siblings, who suggested to him that it could make him more “leader-like.” Old generals may not be the type of folks who can conjure up the idea of eyebrow trimming.
36 posted on 12/20/2013 9:20:57 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
New batch of reports say that there are some 70 NK officials and their dependents who want to defect to S. Korea. They probably took shelter in SK's diplomatic missions in China, or are in hiding while contacting SK gov, be it SK diplomats or intel ops.

Some of them have not only info on NK nuke program but also NK regime's overseas bank account which have been well-hidden. This means that money pipeline would be squeezed further because those accounts could be shut down.

Fat Boy may have to cut down on his obscenely extravagant life-style.

More info came out on clash between Jang's people and NK military. 150 KPA soldiers went to take over a lucrative fishery enterprise with the approval of Kim Jong-eun. Kim told Jang to give it to military so that they can feed malnourished soldiers. Jang ignored it, and his people naturally did not get the message from his boss. When the soldiers turned up, Jang's boys refused to turn it over. Things got heated up. 150 (malnourished) soldiers clashed with 40 (probably better-fed) Jang's securities, in which soldiers got their ass-kicked. Two of them were dead.

37 posted on 12/20/2013 9:35:42 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

So he is like little kid rubber ducky OHHHH how sweettt


38 posted on 12/20/2013 10:20:54 AM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo
Old generals may not be the type of folks who can conjure up the idea of eyebrow trimming.

I think you have something here, maybe a sudden remark by JSt about the eyebrow trimming caused the leadership trimming. ;-)

39 posted on 12/20/2013 12:21:58 PM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; TigerLikesRooster

We should not forget http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Won-hong http://nkleadershipwatch.wordpress.com/leadership-biographies/gen-kim-won-hong/ He has his fingers in the cookie jar


40 posted on 12/20/2013 12:35:42 PM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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