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To: sitetest; Alberta's Child

The White House has repeatedly maintained that ObamaCare expands options, a mantra that White House Press Secretary Jay Carney repeated on Friday. “They’ll have choices they didn’t have in the past, including a range of options when it comes to levels of coverage,” he said.

But those options don’t apply to the millions who will be directed to Medicaid, many of them hardly impoverished.

“The system will automatically sign them up for Medicaid, even if they don’t want to be on Medicaid,” says James Capretta of the Ethics and Public Policy Center. “That’s what’s happening. So a lot of people are getting signed up for Medicaid just by virtue of what their income is.”

A case in point is a Virginia family, who asked to remain anonymous, but who came to Fox News with documents that demonstrate an apparent absurdity with Medicaid selection.

The father owns a $5 million house - entirely paid for. His kids attend expensive private schools. He owns three cars, but because he has earned his fortune and has stopped working , and his wife’s new start-up business has yet to produce an income stream, he is considered by the Healthcare.gov website to have no income.

The website put him on Medicaid. He protested in the website’s chat area. A screen grab of the dialogue reads: “Let 60 minutes show up in front of my 5 million dollars paid for house and tell America that this guy is on {Medicaid} and that the American people are paying {for} it!”

A navigator replied, “I do understand your frustration, however I have no other options to offer.”

There is also strong evidence Medicaid provides substandard care. The Manhattan Institute’s Avik Roy wrote in 2012, “Medicaid patients were almost twice as likely to die as those with private insurance; their hospital stays were 42 percent longer and cost 26 percent more.”


89 posted on 12/16/2013 8:37:30 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton
If I was that guy and I was in good health, the first thing I would do is start liquidating my assets and setting up trusts for the disposition of the estate.

The second thing I should do is go out and try to get a 100% loan-to-value mortgage on the $5 million home. If I'm going to be stuck on Medicaid and basically subject to a future lien of an unknown amount on the property, then I might as well let the bank and Uncle Sam figure out who gets the house after I die.

92 posted on 12/16/2013 8:44:06 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: lepton
And the third thing I would do is have one of the trusts start doing business with the wife's start-up company just so she can start generating some perfectly legitimate income that could change their financial circumstances (on paper) dramatically.

If the wife runs a flower shop, then buy a dozen roses every 15 minutes if necessary. If she runs a small bake shop, then buy a dozen cookie platters every day. The couple's circumstances won't really change at all, but the ObamaCare website will suddenly recognize them as "wealthy."

97 posted on 12/16/2013 8:48:04 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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