Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 15 December 2013

Various driveby media television networks ^ | 15 December 2013 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

December 15th, 2013

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis.; Larry Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America; Carlee Soto, whose sister was killed in the Newtown, Conn., shooting; former astronaut Mark Kelly, whose wife, ex-Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, was shot in a 2011 attack.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Ryan; Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash.; Gov. Scott Walker, R-Wis.; Michael Hayden, a former head of the CIA and National Security Agency.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Dick Durbin, D-Ill.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Secretary of State John Kerry.

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Secretary of State John Kerry.

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Reps. Michael McCaul, R-Texas, and Adam Schiff, D-Calif.

[bray]

Looks like the GOP can use a few more cups of Tea. We have their attention and now is the time to defeat them.

[Son House]

I take that back, here it is;

Let the Bush tax cuts expire
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2010/08/01/gps.fareed.take.8.01.cnn.html

CNN’s Fareed Zakaria says the easiest way to cut the deficit is to let the Bush tax cuts expire.

[kabar]

The Dems are solidifying their control of government knowing full well that they are now the permanent majority party, at least on the national level. I don’t see any path for the GOP to get the WH in 2016. The electoral math is inescapable.

[rodguy911]

Kerry is the absolute worst. He now says that the moderate muslims will save Syria. Problem solved.Does anyone know what or who a moderate muslim is?.... the mideast/most muzzie countries are a lost cause. We need to get as far away from them as we can.

[Son House]

Here’s a couple of quotes;

CNN’s Fareed Zakaria
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2010/08/01/gps.fareed.take.8.01.cnn.html

“George Bush cut taxes irresponsibly for everyone”

“Clinton era rates strongest growth in 3 decades”

“extend unemployment benefits”

“unemployment benefits work”

[lodi90]

Paur Ryans’ comments regarding the need for Republican control of the House, Senate and presidency before they can “accomplish” any positive changes leaves me very cold.

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The GOPe ran up the white flag and are taking a powder until 2016. Conservatives should do the same in Nov. 2014. No more party line support for these progressive Republican buffoons.

[rodguy911]

......This will pass with 25 to 50 GOPs in the House voting for it along with the Dems. It has been the strategy all along.

I still say lets just kick their ass now and take over the party. If we go third party we still have to kick their ass it will be lot easier from the inside than the outside.

[rodguy911]

Exactly,they keep getting out of line without the numbers to back what they are doing.We can and will kick their asses. Out of the party if necessary or they can get in line and get conservative or GTFO.

[Son House]

And Democrats still need 8 7 Republican votes(they've already got McCain's vote...) according to what I heard on FACE THE NATION (CBS): Dick Durbin, D-Ill.

[rodguy911]

I see the path. It goes along the road of 90-150 million lost health insurance policies replaced with a big huge third world policy that is basically useless.There’s your path.

[kabar]

I hate to say it but when you let the regime, any regime, just do whatever they want, whenever they want and don't even try to impeach them or challenge them this is where it ends.

I couldn't agree more. Effectively, there is no opposition party.

[rodguy911]

We need a good sustained war on rinos. They are worse than dems.

[kabar]

Boehner has thrown down the gauntlet. Now is the time to challenge the GOPe and let them see the consequences. If Boehner is spoiling for a fight, we must give it to him or lose all credibility.

[lodi90]

I don’t think the Destroy America Act of 2014 will go to a real conference. It will be a fake conference lite like the budget deal. Ryan seems happy to stab poor & middle class America in the back and he will take the lead again would be my guess.

[kabar]

I see the path. It goes along the road of 90-150 million lost health insurance policies replaced with a big huge third world policy that is basically useless.There’s your path.

I wish I could agree with you, but issues don't seem to matter any more. We are in the era of tribal politics.

The Dems will blame the Reps for the failure of Obamacare citing their lack of willingness to help fix (tweak) the problems rather than trying to repeal Obamacare and hurt all those who have benefited from Obamacare, i.e., the poor, the sick, the children (up to age 26), and those on expanded Medicaid. The Dems will fall back on the rhetoric they used to justify Obamacare in the first place.

[Son House]

Gingrich: the last shutdown didn’t work, so the Republicans learned a lesson from that.

As if Government spending more than they take in works...

[SkyPilot]

Congress double-crosses military retirees

"In fact, the Ryan-Murray deal, which raises the spending caps imposed under sequestration while reducing the amount military retirees receive, amounts to a bailout of the defense industry on the backs of veterans. With its budget cuts, sequestration and government shutdown, this year has been more trying for military families than the worst of the war years. I'm afraid that after all that my community has given in time, tears and lives, the country we served might be trying to skip out on the check."

Rebekah Sanderlin (an Army wife, Military Spouse of the Year finalist, and a writer who focuses on military issues. She, her husband and their three children are stationed at Eglin Air Force Base in Florida. She is an advisory board member of the Military Family Advisory Network)

Alas, I have read numerous media stories and accounts of how this "deal" that betrays current military serving in uniform and retired military. By almost all counts, the chief architect who insisted on screwing the soldier, sailor, and airman was Paul "Benedict Arnold" Ryan.

From all that I have gathered, it is obvious that he has contempt for "working age" retired military.

Shame on him, the back stabbing GOP, and all who voted for this travesty.

[rodguy911]

I think we are in more agreement than you know. What you call tribal politics I call political strategy. Either way it does control the outcome of events and we need to get on the winning side instead of the losing side of outcomes.
The future of the country is at stake.

[rodguy911]

You could extend/expand Newt's remarks buy saying we learned that no matter what the real truth is outcomes are based on messaging and if you can't get your message out even if you are right you can still lose.We are good at losing while being right

Some people still think we had the power to shut down the govt. when we never did.

[Fishtalk]

Morning Cousin Mike,

I know that you are right about the health insurance jumping into bed with Obamacare.

My question to you is.....what else could they do?

If you have a business and all of a sudden you are told it’s either my way or the highway, what do you do?

Understand I have no love for these folks but I ponder just what do I do if it’s going out of business or going along with what was, at the time remember, going to be a law embraced by the citizenry.

Now they’re dying a death by a thousand cuts which they deserve I must suppose.

I see a huge implosion of Obamacare next year as these problems keep smacking us in the face. Losing doctors, proper reimbursement....imagine those poor people showing up in the ER thinking they have health insurance and they don’t

I think the American people are going to take care of all this themselves. I don’t think but few are going to sign up and finally the legislature will have to get together and salvage something....even if the salvaging involves getting rid of the mess all together.

THEN those health insurance companies will wish they hadn’t betrayed us so.

I do NOT like this new budget deal....at all. But I’m holding my rancor.

For I think it’s just as well that early in 2014 we’re not talking about budgets, sequesters and debt ceilings because Obamacare will be all the pre-occupation. THIS affects us all.

Imagine the next State of the Union speech, the Dems forced to sit in their seats and applaud the President’s lies.

You can fool ALL of the people SOME of the time. You can fool SOME of the people ALL of the time. You can’t fool ALL of the people ALL of the time.

2014 will bring a new dynamic in our legislature.

In my more kind moments I’d like to thin the pubs might have done this money thing intentionally, with a plan in mind to inundate the public with problems with Obamacare.

One can dream, can’t one?