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To: Eva
The Arizona/Kathy Giffords shooter was also a strong supporter of the Marxist-like Zeitgeist movement. Loughner’s former best friend, Zach Osler, said in an ABC News television interview that he (the Arz shooter) was "mostly influenced by the Zeitgeist Movement". [pp] The "Zeitgeist Movement had a PROFOUND effect on shooter and how he saw the world"
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The ‘Zeitgeist Movement’ is basically a global Marxism one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Zeitgeist_Movement

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Concepts advocated by the Zeitgeist Movement

* Management of the Earth's Natural Resources: Once surveyed, the Earth's natural resources will no longer be privately owned. They will be managed according to general sustainability principles of preservation, recycling and optimization.

* No Money, Barter, Trade or Property: The monetary value of commodities does not represent the actual physical supply of natural resources, or their utilitarian value, which is integral to the success of the type of sustainable global society that the Zeitgeist Movement advocates. Income is a requirement for individuals to sustain life in a monetary system, so this in turn creates the need for commodities to be continuously bought and sold and for goods to be continuously produced, in order to make sure that the operation of social functions is maintained. This, combined with competition over market share, creates an abundance of goods that usually exceeds the demand for them, which in turn depletes natural resources and may create excessive waste.

Furthermore, the profit motive inherent in a monetary system, creates an incentive to increase profits regardless of the impact on human beings or the environment. When labor is displaced or outsourced, it either removes a laborer's source of sustenance, or takes advantage of inexpensive laborers. Certain manufacturers and corporations have been noted to contaminate the environment by dumping their by-products and waste materials, instead of disposing of them properly, in order to save money. Other manufacturers have been known to take advantage of a process called planned obsolescence in order to increase sales of their products over time. With universal access to goods and services provided by a sustainable means of production based on resource availability, optimization and preservation, these problems of a monetary economy can be overcome.

* Automation: Machine automation is more productive than human labor and replaces the need for people to perform repetitive and tedious tasks.

* Technological Unification of the Earth: Globally networked technological infrastructure is required to monitor planetary resources in real time, and theoretically make the most efficient use of them in solving planetary problems.

* Scientific Methodology: Decision making regarding the methods of production, what goods and services are to be provided, city planning and resource optimization, preservation and recycling will be arrived at by analysing relevant trends and data, via use of the scientific method.

* Sustainable City Systems: Utilizing a systemic approach for a sustainable global society, city systems may act as microcosm to the global network of technological infrastructure. The city system can incorporate all manufacturing, goods and services that people will use on a daily basis within the city limits. The city system may also utilize a cybernetic central computer to monitor energy and resource supply, usage and other relevant data in real time, relaying this information to other city systems that make up the macrocosm of the technologically unified globe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Zeitgeist_Movement

25 posted on 12/14/2013 2:00:54 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

It sounds as though Zeitgeist is essentially Agenda 21 with a slightly different focus. It makes sense that Loughner would be into this, though. The basic premise behind the Bill Ayers small schools is to involve the student in community and political activity and not emphasize grades and testing so much.

I really think that it is the relativity that gets to these guys, though. For instance, Loughner’s teachers said that he often wrote a word at the top of his papers that seemed unrelated to anything that they were doing in class. My guess is that he was thinking about the relativity of the word, like what the definition of “is” is. I just think that when an unstable, immature mind is confronted with this off the wall philosophy, that these boys just loose touch with reality.

I think that it goes the other way around, too. I think that unstable minds are attracted to off the wall philosophies.


31 posted on 12/14/2013 4:25:19 PM PST by Eva
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