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To: stanne; Kaslin
Everything that was the Catholic Church was tossed out the windows and doors of the Vatican and churches as the clerics created a new religion rooted in humanism.

Subsequent to Pope Pius XII popes began to speak an entirely new language: papal doubletalk. Analyzing or parsing their comments was a tedious and pointless activity as they were saying virtually nothing. Meanwhile the church was circling the drain.

9 posted on 12/12/2013 5:33:02 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen; stanne
Everything that was the Catholic Church was tossed out the windows and doors of the Vatican and churches as the clerics created a new religion rooted in humanism. Subsequent to Pope Pius XII popes began to speak an entirely new language: papal doubletalk. Analyzing or parsing their comments was a tedious and pointless activity as they were saying virtually nothing. Meanwhile the church was circling the drain.

There's actually a name for it: "studied ambiguity":

To be sure, the contents of the letter to Ryan weren’t just a product of Dolan’s need to appease both sides in the intra-Church struggle. It was also a classic example of a style of ecclesiastical document that the Vatican employs in complicated situations....This style of writing aims at “studied ambiguity,” a Vatican diplomat explained to me, noting that the people who write such letters are trained to think in terms of centuries, not sound bites. “So you always need to be able to say fifty years on, ‘Well, of course we never meant that,’” the diplomat said.
-- from the thread Mixed Blessing: The Ryan budget and the raging battle within the U.S. Catholic Church

10 posted on 12/12/2013 5:39:53 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: IbJensen

I would NOT go that far


11 posted on 12/12/2013 5:42:08 AM PST by stanne
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To: IbJensen
Seems to me the majority of American Bishops were fat and rich and desperately wanted to be "one of the guys" who were invited to the same functions Protestants were invited to. So, they buried what is really in the documents of V II under the layers of lies they called "The Spirit of Vatican II".

They then set out to make a blend of Americanism and Modernism they would say was Catholicism when in reality they were aiming for their own church that was as pliable as Protestants and a break with Rome to form something like the Church of England.

People are right to decry American Bishops and how badly they've gone off the rails and betrayed Christ. It's easy to do that but it's worth considering that Catholic Church in this country is still full of faithful Catholics serving Christ in spite of a century of undermining from within and without that's been far worse than the attacks that toppled, with the possible exception of the SBC, every single non-Catholic Church in this country.

The One True Church in this country is now like the Army of Gideon, stripped down to the point that the victories soon to come will obviously be the work of our Lord, not of men. Be ready for hard battles and amazing victories, not pity parties.

JMHO-

14 posted on 12/12/2013 6:35:42 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory)
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