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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I always thought that Japan and Germany had a mutual defense treaty which required either one to declare war if any country declared war on either.


5 posted on 12/11/2013 5:57:19 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: yarddog

Japan initiated hostilities, Germany was not obliged to bail them out. In the event, Hitler might feared that the U.S. would finish off Japan and then turn on Germany. Official American policy at the start of the war was to devote 80% of our resources to Europe and 20% to the Pacific. After Midway, the Pacific got more resources, but it was still largely a side show from the bigger war. If the U.S. only had to take on Japan, we would really have steamrollered them, and been left with a big well oiled military machine and an unsinkable aircraft carrier, HMS Great Britain.


15 posted on 12/11/2013 6:03:40 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: yarddog
That's right.

It's more than just that, though. The U.S. was effectively at war with Germany long before any formal declarations were made anyway. The U.S. was shipping arms to Great Britain across the North Atlantic under U.S. Navy escort.

I've never understood this idiotic infatuation with war declarations or even open military attacks like Pearl Harbor as a benchmark for determining when a war "officially" began.

30 posted on 12/11/2013 6:37:31 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: yarddog
The document to which you refer, was the Tripartite pact. Germany Japan and Italy were the original signitories.

The Pact presented the condition "ARTICLE 3....to assist one another with all political, economic and military means when one of the three contracting powers is attacked..." by a country not already involved in the war,"

Technically though, the US and the allies didn't attack Japan so Germany was not obliged to declare war on the US based on the pact.

33 posted on 12/11/2013 6:41:34 PM PST by pfflier
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To: yarddog

No, mutual assistance agreement.

German generals were shocked Hitler declared war on America. His greatest folly and there were a lot of them but that one took the cake.


52 posted on 12/11/2013 7:21:02 PM PST by warsaw44
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