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The World Leader Who Didn’t Attend Churchill's Funeral
Townhall.com ^ | December 11, 2013 | David Stokes

Posted on 12/11/2013 12:16:04 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: US Navy Vet

He was the Prez right before the American Civil War. His lack of leadership during his time in office helped to bring about the war. There are other negative aspects about him that other FReepers can chime in with.


21 posted on 12/11/2013 12:57:14 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: SevenofNine
Since Obama attended Mandella’s funeral, but was unavailable for Margaret Thatcher, could we chalk this up to racism?
22 posted on 12/11/2013 12:59:20 PM PST by blues-train (blues train)
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To: US Navy Vet

More details, shipmate.

I’ve been reading the biographies of T. Roosevelt. He ain’t no socialist though he was a populist, and not at all popular with those elitists who wanted another National Bank.

He tangled with the Vanderbilts, the Goulds, the Rockefellers, J.P.Morgan, and other Robber Barons who felt they had the sole right of choosing who was to be President.

Gee! Sounds like the GOPe today.


23 posted on 12/11/2013 1:04:53 PM PST by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF USA CITIZEN PARENTS)
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To: Kaslin
Why did one of the most politically savvy leaders ever to occupy the White House—Lyndon Baines Johnson—decide not to attend the funeral of Winston Churchill in 1965?

That's an easy one. LBJ avoided situations where someone could make an unfavorable comparison between him and someone else. Winston Churchill was an undeniably great leader. So obviously LBJ would not want to be stuck at his funeral.

24 posted on 12/11/2013 1:05:16 PM PST by wideminded
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To: US Navy Vet
Buchanan is widely considered by historians to be the worst president in U.S. history. While it is true that many historians are of the libtard vent and love activist jerks like FDR, Buchanan was in a class all by himself.

Not only was he, in all probability, the first gay president, but he managed to enrage both North and South with some of the irrational policies which removed the consistency and predictability from compromise policies put in place by his successors.

Then there was his open policy of making war on Indians and Mormons just because it felt good. Some of the Plains tribes (especially the Sioux) which hadn't been hostile and had even gotten along reasonably well with whites traveling west up to that point, became hostile due to Buchanan's aforementioned policies.

Some blame said policies on General Johnston, his secretary of war, and later a Confederate General who was seeking to divert and weaken the U.S. Army in preparation for the Civil War.

Yeah, that's possible, but he couldn't have done it without Buchanan's support.

25 posted on 12/11/2013 1:05:17 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Oliviaforever

It would not have been Air Force One unless the President were actually on board.


26 posted on 12/11/2013 1:05:48 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Excellent list. I would add Jackson and Lincoln to mine.


27 posted on 12/11/2013 1:15:56 PM PST by Romulus
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To: stanne

yeah he won’t get invite next year


28 posted on 12/11/2013 1:18:11 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: SatinDoll

I saw a new TR bio in the bookstore at lunch. It was written by Doris Kearns Goodwin with an eye toward TR’s populism, in conjunction with the journalist “muckrakers” that were in concert with him about the elitists. Think I’ll pass on this one, personally, but thought you might like to know.


29 posted on 12/11/2013 1:19:18 PM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: gemoftheocean

Never forget that TR was a jingo and (more damnably) a committed, enthusiastic eugenicist. A proto-nazi, IMHO.


30 posted on 12/11/2013 1:20:56 PM PST by Romulus
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LBJ, like BO, was an a**hat who despised Churchill.

What problem did LBJ have with Winston Churchill? From what I know of their respective careers they never crossed paths except fro when Churchill addressed Congress for the second time in 1952, I believe it was.

BHO undoubtedly knows what Churchill thought of blacks, all blacks, not just American Negroes. There are two pretty explicit albeit brief indications of this in his doctor Lord Moran's very revealing book about Churchill as a patient. Churchill was PM when the Mau Mau trouble was going on and let the colonial authorities smash the uprising with really iron fisted tactics (appropriate ones IMHO).

Incidentally, whatever Churchill's family thought was an outrageous breach of doctor=patient privilege this book makes WSC a real hero. Tough, tough old man sloughing off strokes and heart problems and pushing on. Even though WSC was dogged with depression his whole life. Read the book and come away humbled at how much a battler Churchill was.

31 posted on 12/11/2013 1:32:29 PM PST by robowombat
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To: US Navy Vet

Excellent list of the not so excellent.


32 posted on 12/11/2013 1:50:44 PM PST by TalonDJ
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To: Vigilanteman

Churchill saw the relationship between roosevelt and $+@l!n up close. He was under no illusions about saint franklin.


33 posted on 12/11/2013 7:22:16 PM PST by Mmmike
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To: Kaslin
Many in the British government saw it as a slight. And in some ways it represented a minor setback in American/Anglo relations at a crucial time in the Cold War.

Here!

Take yer old bust back; too!

https://www.google.com/search?q=obama+bust+churchill&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7ADRA_enUS475

34 posted on 12/11/2013 9:15:42 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: T-Bird45

Doris Kearns Goodwin is a super liberal. I’ve never read any of her books and do not intend on doing so, but thanks for the information.


35 posted on 12/12/2013 3:34:49 AM PST by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF USA CITIZEN PARENTS)
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To: Romulus

“Never forget that TR was a jingo and (more damnably) a committed, enthusiastic eugenicist. A proto-nazi, IMHO.”

I don’t know where you got that info, but he made Republican power brokers really nervous every time he reached out politically to American blacks. Most people do no know this, but TR’s mother was a southerner, and her family had been slave owners and supporters of the Confederacy. TR was violently opposed to lynchings, and worked to get such activity halted. He did so whenever he could despite his position’s unpopularity with southern Democrats.

He was opposed to colonialism by Europeans in the Western Hemisphere. At the end of the Spanish-American War he saw to it that Cuba, the Philipines, and other former Spanish colonies had written constitutions that allowed them to split from U.S. protection. European governments but particularly European banking interests hated TR.

I suspect that most of the disinformation available has been written by liberals paid by those aforementioned European bankers. Up until Woodrow Wilson, it was Republican elitists who were trying to reestablish a National Bank, like the one Pres. Andrew Jackson managed to abolish early in the 19th century. Midwestern Republicans in Congress did a super job of preventing that reestablishment, and eventually men like Gould and Morgan turned to the Democrats.

The book, “The Creature from Jekyll Island” is a good information read on the subject.


36 posted on 12/12/2013 4:07:46 AM PST by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF USA CITIZEN PARENTS)
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To: SatinDoll
Judge Napolitano isn't TR's biggest fan.


37 posted on 12/12/2013 4:38:57 AM PST by Bratch
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To: Bratch

Thank you for the information.

The biographies I’ve read of TR were penned by Edmund Morris. He wrote three on TR: The Rise of Theodore Roosevelt; Theodore Rex; and, Colonel Roosevelt.

Morris also wrote - Dutch: A Memoir Of Ronald Reagan.

You should take note here that there exists a huge difference between biographies (such as by Morris) and political analysis (in this case by Judge Napolitano). One is a detailed description of a life in its fullness, while the other synthesizes an aspect, freezes it and examines it in hindsight.


38 posted on 12/12/2013 5:09:43 AM PST by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF USA CITIZEN PARENTS)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Don’t forget Buchanan.

Well, he sure wasn't a Millard Fillmore!

39 posted on 12/12/2013 11:26:19 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (OK, Obama be bad. Now where's OUR Program, Plan, and Leader?)
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To: gemoftheocean
.....why Teddy R? Most republicans like him.

A Big Government Man. Also, changed us from kind of a down-home Republic into a big international empire. A Progressive from the word go.

Not a team player ... that Bull Moose Crap gave us Wilson and WWI ... just as moose-crap Perot gave us Ole BJ Clinton. OTOH, TR was a for real .... if very loud ...American. Grandpa liked him. Grandma didn't, but the ladies hadn't the vote yet!

40 posted on 12/12/2013 11:32:42 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (OK, Obama be bad. Now where's OUR Program, Plan, and Leader?)
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