Posted on 12/11/2013 3:10:00 AM PST by Timber Rattler
Mark Levin put Paul Ryan through his paces, as Ryan himself said at the end of the interview. Certainly Levin didn’t pull any punches as they discussed the new budget agreement, even calling it “Mickey Mouse.”
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Ryan is a WUSSY!
No. He’s a RINO.
uh....same thing.
From what I got from the interview, I like the deal.
No new tax on incomes.
Sequester is not lifted - it is amended for the next 15 months to swap permanent changes in entitlement laws [reductions] for increases over the next 15 months.
It comes out about even if you can stomach waiting 10 years for the full amount of the reductions to take place.
But it does not lift the sequester and it does not raise income taxes.
I really am surprised the Dems went for it. They must be in a panic.
One thing I was very interested in - Ryan claims that the deal “reclaims the power of the purse” to the House by not doing CRs... I’m interested in that b/c that’s been the ploy by dems ... and that’s why they started doing CRs... to take such power from the House. That is one of the main pillars allowing 0bama to take over government.
They just say no and shut down the gov’t and blame Rs and it works. The latest shutdown - clearly 100% on the hands of Reid and 0bama - did hurt the Rs. But it was finessed beautifully by Cruz with 0bamacare.
If we could get back to what we’ve done for over two centuries - individual spending bills - we’d be closer to regaining the power of the purse. I don’t think 0bama would survive repeatedly refusing to fund individual pieces of gov. ESPECIALLY if we win the senate even by the smallest of margins. Hell I bet a 49-51 D control would see enough dems throw 0bama under the bus and make him veto a bill to fund.
I’m about 12 minutes into the 17 minute interview, and I’d call it a good hard and substantive interview. Ryan made some good points, as did Levin. Should be “must hear” material for everyone.
Pi$$ on “ryan the rat”... he is a lying, pos, liberal democrat, big government whore. Anyone supporting him is the same.
SEVEN HUNDRED billion dollar deficit this year and it returns to over a trillion dollars each year in two years and they agree to cut 22.5 billion in deficit spending over ten years and you like that?????
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3100575/posts
“The Wall Street Journal - The deal, which goes to the House and Senate for approval in the coming days, marks a major change in the landmark 2011 budget-cutting law, which set in motion 10 years of fiscal austerity, including across-the-board spending cuts known as sequestration.
The annual discretionary spending target will be raised to $1.012 trillion in 2014 and $1.014 trillion in 2015 under the accord.
The deal responds to the fears of most Democrats and some Republicans that government spending would be cut too much and too randomly under the next round of the sequester, which was slated to reduce the budget for most domestic and defense programs to $967 billion in 2014, down from $986 billion in 2013.
The depth of conservative opposition will become apparent as lawmakers absorb the details, which were released to the public Tuesday night. To draw support from the GOP’s fiscal conservatives, the deal includes additional deficit-reduction measures: While the agreement calls for a $63 billion increase in spending in 2014 and 2015, it is coupled with $85 billion in deficit reductions over the next 10 years, for a net deficit reduction of $22.5 billion.
The deal achieves some of those savings by extending an element of the 2011 budget law that was due to expire in 2021. The sequester currently cuts 2% from Medicare payments to health-care providers from 2013 through 2021. The new deal extends those cuts to 2022 and 2023.
This deal is simple, really. They are raising the spending cap that was won by the Republicans in 2011. The sequester, which was President Obama’s baby until he discovered the Republicans were going to stiffen their spines and hold him to his proposal, is going to be eased. All for a supposed reduction of the deficit of $22.5 billion over ten years. I would point out that the deficit for fiscal year 2013 is hovering around the $700 billion mark. I would contend cutting $22.5 billion over ten years is setting the mark a bit low.
Here is what is really happening, once again. The Democrats are achieving their never-ending goal of raising spending levels. Republicans are agreeing to that increase, in exchange for supposed spending cuts sometime in the future. I would suggest they hire someone to hold a séance so they can ask President Ronald Reagan about a similar deal he worked out with the Democrats. That didn’t work out so well for Reagan. If he could talk to us now, I’m fairly sure he would be raising his voice in protest to this compromise. He would be telling us we shouldn’t trust the Democrats to come through with their end of the compromise. Looking at the history of previous compromise budget deals with the Democrats, I’m going to say he would be correct.”
Must you be reminded that the current Congress has no sway over what the next 5 Congresses can undo? So you think by exploding the current budget to over $1T each year just to save $23B over 10 years that can easily be undone by the next 5 Congresses is a good deal?
Seeing the first two years don’t count in the savings should be as simple to see this was written for the current Congress because with this crap I can guarantee that miniscule by comparison $23B will be gone before the next Congress gets its feet wet.
Do you realize the Federal Government spends $23B in just under 57 hours?
I don't like it but I accept it as the best that Ryan could get.
Ryan was negotiating with the senate and the white hut and they get to speak up too.
There is going to be screaming all over the conservative blogs, but reason is something that we need to have, and remember that there are 315,000,000 people living in America and 310,000,000 don't have a clue.
If the pubbies are insisting on buying votes as the DemonRats always are, there is no path forward that doesn't include bankruptcy.
Plan accordingly.
Shutting down the government at this time won’t help our chances in 2014. Keep the pressure on with Obamacare, Bam and the rest of the RATS are tumbling in the polls let’s not help them out.
When you start name calling, you are out if ideas. Ryan is wrong...Why? It is not because he is a lying, pos, liberal democrat...it is because he is wrong ideologically...prove that and you’ve made a difference.
It may indeed be the best we can get….and if it does allow a laser focus on Obama Care and the IRS - thru the 2014s - then we will remove a lot of Democrats from power.
It lets the RATS off the hook for increasing the DEBT to $17 trillion. Now they can say: WE REACHED AN HISTORIC BIPATISAN AGREEMENT ON THE BUDGET.
The GOP gave away one of its main campaign issues.
Ryan may be all that you say - I’m no Ryan fan - but last time I checked, Harry Reid ran the Senate and Obama ran the White House. If you find out anything different, please do let us know.
I think you’re mixed up.
What I like is:
a) permanent changes in law that reduce entitlement spending traded for temporary spending increase that in part offset sequester cuts to military.
b) no more shut-down leverage during this Congress
I do not like billion dollar deficits or trillions of dollars of debt. That must have been someone else’s post where you read that someone liked that. I wish we could eliminate that. Don’t you?
Whatever happened to just passing a budget, as required by law. Cutting spending, and then standing your ground when you’re being attacked by the Democrats. Try living up to your screenname.
This deal that Ryan cut is a joke. In another post, it was said that a séance may be needed to contact Ronald Reagan.
Reagan could explain to us how his deal with Democrats in the 1980’s that raised taxes in exchange for promises of spending cuts down the road came out.
The Ryan’s and the Reid’s increase spending and the national debt, they only disagree on the rate of speed.
Its time to really balance the budget quickly and not pretend we are cutting a little spending off the top ten years down the road.
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