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It should be discussed.
1 posted on 12/08/2013 10:02:57 AM PST by PeaRidge
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To: PeaRidge

I think FR needs a moratorium on Mandela threads.

He’s dead.

THE END


2 posted on 12/08/2013 10:11:58 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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Well Lincoln did burn the South(including Atlanta) for daring to secede so they are similar in that : genocide.

here it says there is a stage 6 genocide in South Africa, mandela’s enduring legacy.

http://www.realnews24.com/genocide-watch-upgrades-south-africa-stage-6-preparation/

that is a genocide of whites in South Africa by a black government.

In South Africa many white women getting raped and tortured to death proof:
https://www.google.com/search?q=south+africa+rape+of+white+women&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=8XCjUq08x9qRB6j1gOgP&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=849&bih=465

Genocide Watch has been particularly concerned for over ten years at the hate crimes perpetrated against Boer farmers and other whites – bodies of murder victims dissembled and disfigured, old women raped in front of their husbands, and other strong evidence of racially targeted crimes. However, Genocide Watch had no evidence that the South African government was encouraging these crimes or that they were organised by an organised hate group.

Now Genocide Watch states that they have evidence of organised incitement to violence against white people.


3 posted on 12/08/2013 10:13:23 AM PST by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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Lincoln and mandela faced nothing that was the same.
Lincoln was not a communist.


5 posted on 12/08/2013 10:21:07 AM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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Mandela was a avid Communist with ties to violent thugs starting with his wife.

He might have ended apartheid, but in the wake he opened up a brand new wave of racial violence that’s brought South Africa to be known as one of the most dangerous places on Earth (for whites and blacks).


15 posted on 12/08/2013 11:04:31 AM PST by Tzimisce
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Differences:

Lincoln only freed southern blacks. He couldn’t care less for Northern slaves - they were owned by his friends.

Similarities:

Smug self-congratulating “I am not racist” white people use their legacies indiscriminately while continuing to distance themselves from blacks. For communists, the enemy isn’t racism, but freedom.


16 posted on 12/08/2013 11:15:44 AM PST by golux
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I never realized Lincoln had spent years in prison. That always gets left out of his biographies.


20 posted on 12/08/2013 11:36:06 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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I nominate this for the Dumbest Mandela-Related Thread Of The Week award.


23 posted on 12/08/2013 11:45:51 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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Lincoln did not want war. Mandela was a communist terrorist.


25 posted on 12/08/2013 11:47:38 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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I don’t recall Old Abe necklacing people as Mandela’s family did. Specifically his wife. I don’t recall the pubbies cutting of the noses of people who voted for their opposition as the ANC did. No I don’t think there is anything to discuss and no similarities whatsoever. Simply wishful, romantic nonsense.


29 posted on 12/08/2013 12:02:09 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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Mandela was a terrorist Lincoln was not.


33 posted on 12/08/2013 12:25:43 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign is for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: PeaRidge
It should be discussed.

Let's discuss it then.

Blacks in South Africa under Apartheid were not slaves. They could not be sold down the river never to see their families again. Their children belonged to them, not to some 'master.' They could work for wages wherever they could be hired. They were free to move about the country or even to leave the country if they chose. They could own property and that property was respected. They were allowed to learn to read and write.

Mandela v Lincoln? Wrong analogy.

Apartheid treated blacks in South Africa very similar to how blacks in the most of the Southern US were treated for 100 years after the Civil War. They were not allowed to participate in the political process. They were denied equal rights in a number of spheres such as housing, employment and educational opportunities. They were denied equal protection under the law. But they were not chattel slaves.

Mandela v M.L. King? I can see their struggles as similar but what Mandela fought against was nothing like the institution of slavery that Lincoln opposed and apparently you would have supported.

46 posted on 12/08/2013 2:35:55 PM PST by Ditto
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