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Experts raise new doubts about essential Bay Bridge rods
Sacramento Bee ^ | December 8, 2013 | Charles Piller

Posted on 12/08/2013 12:37:55 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Heads should roll.

But when the very people who are supposed to oversee these things are the ones on the take all the way to the top, what's to be done?

It's kind of like when a states attorney general uses the state police as his personal procurer/pimp and they do it with a nod and a wink, who are you going to call?

41 posted on 12/08/2013 7:51:55 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I wonder how many kick-backs there given and received up and down the chain of command.

They start with Arnold Schwarzenegger, who kicked Bechtel off the project and brought in KFM because it was an investment of Warren Buffet's. Bechetel was forced to turn over 35,000 hours of engineering work to KFM for free. The latter admitted that they could not build the bridge as designed. It went downhill from there.

42 posted on 12/08/2013 8:23:16 AM PST by Carry_Okie (0-Care IS Medicaid; they'll pull a sheet over your head and take everything you own to pay for it.)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
Me thinks this is more of a design problem....why did this design require "unprecedented" large rods.....smells like brute force engineering was at play.

Any design in an environment like that requiring sealed tubes for major structural elements is begging for catastrophe. This isn't "brute force"; it's "creeping elegance" gone wild in the hands of flaming incompetents.

43 posted on 12/08/2013 8:27:59 AM PST by Carry_Okie (0-Care IS Medicaid; they'll pull a sheet over your head and take everything you own to pay for it.)
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To: T-Bird45

How would those effect the bridge? Is it really worth all the incontinence caused when spellcheck can fox everything just fine?


44 posted on 12/08/2013 8:48:42 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: exDemMom

I was a contractor for a major telecommunications company for a while. All the people in certain slots were college graduates, many with masters degrees. The emergency notices they would send out to their clients were just embarrassing. I’m not referring to the quick individual notices from the worker bees, but the carefully crafted notices broadcast out to masses of customers...and they’d stay wrong for weeks.


45 posted on 12/08/2013 8:56:05 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Chinese steel in Chinese warships.
Throw a rock at em and watch the crack start to grow.


46 posted on 12/08/2013 10:34:31 AM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“....Replacement of the rods, which are embedded in the foundation, would be difficult if not impossible. “My concern with the (tower) anchor rods is that there’s no redundancy,” Chung said. “Once they break, there’s nothing you can do.”

Kinda like Ovaporcare, eh?


47 posted on 12/08/2013 11:07:40 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Walkingfeather
don’t be a smug grammatical a hole.

I've seen a lot of Freepers lend a hand to their less literate forum mates, and rarely have I ever seen any of them be "smug" about it.

It strikes me as odd that so many people mistake correction for insult. Most often, those who offer a correction, are doing so out of an impulse to help - not to shame.

48 posted on 12/08/2013 11:14:54 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
So this was a project that could have put scores of AMERICANS to work, but it was outsourced to China instead.

Somewhere on the 'net there's a picture of a toppled Chinese high-rise building that had inadequate foundations.

Oh yeah, here it is.

http://constructionknowledge.wordpress.com/2009/06/29/why-are-buildings-falling-down-in-china/

"Lack of transparency" means no one knows how these things happen.

I am very afraid of the fate of this new bridge.

49 posted on 12/08/2013 11:15:03 AM PST by thecodont
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To: Windflier

It is social Piety. People that are on this or other forums are here to get an idea across, not impress others with flawless punctuation. It’s not your place to “be helpful and correct it”. Those that do it, come off as Grammatically Pius, whether it is your intent or not.


50 posted on 12/08/2013 12:55:54 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: Walkingfeather
It is social Piety. People that are on this or other forums are here to get an idea across, not impress others with flawless punctuation. It’s not your place to “be helpful and correct it”.

Sorry to see that you're so mortally offended by something as simple as someone's effort to help another improve their basic literacy.

I've never been offended by someone's helpful correction to my spelling or grammar, and usually thank the person for doing so.

51 posted on 12/08/2013 1:12:33 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: T-Bird45

Whats the difference between stress and strain? Joe Blow doesn’t know, but to an engineer they have distinctions. The report reflecting findings should have been written by someone competent, someone familiar with the exacting language used by engineers to convey specifics. This appears to be a report ghostwritten to support a politically motivated conclusion.


52 posted on 12/08/2013 4:40:54 PM PST by Ozark Tom
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To: Windflier

Im not offended, I guess I’m just as guilty of trying to be helpful to your social blindness of doing it. You overvalue its importance.


53 posted on 12/09/2013 5:36:09 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: Walkingfeather
You overvalue its importance.

Your unsolicited opinion is duly noted and has been filed accordingly.

54 posted on 12/09/2013 8:59:03 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier; exDemMom; T-Bird45

Editing, correction and accuracy imply judgment and discrimination.

Conservatives value standards, assessment, revision and precision.

Liberals don’t.


55 posted on 12/09/2013 9:16:48 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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