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Military officer calls for nationwide gun-grab
Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 4 December, 2013 | David Codrea

Posted on 12/05/2013 5:34:33 PM PST by marktwain

A firestorm has been started on Esquire’s The Politics Blog with a Tuesday opinion piece by Lt. Col. Robert Bateman titled “It’s time to talk about guns and the Supreme Court.” He not only takes SCOTUS and Justice Antonin Scalia to task for their Heller decision interpretation of the Second Amendment, but goes on to propose citizen disarmament edicts that dispense with false assurances given by some in the gun ban camp that nobody wants to take our guns away.

Bateman does, big time, and makes no bones about it. In a way, he’s done us a service by giving a glimpse of the end game less candid incrementalists are inching toward.

Per his profile at Small Wars Journal, he “is an infantryman, historian and prolific writer. Bateman was a Military Fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) and has taught Military History at the U.S. Military Academy.”

That he can boast these achievements brings an assumed gravitas to the discussion he wants to start simply with his credentials. When such a man speaks out, there is a natural presumption of authority.

The problem is, his arguments don’t live up to that expectation, and rather quickly fall apart with just a superficial analysis.

The Second Amendment only protects a well regulated militia, he argues. “As of 1903,” he maintains, “the ‘militia’ has been known as the National Guard.”

Actually, the resulting United States Code also recognized the “unorganized militia” to include “members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia,” but Bateman dismisses that responding to a comment poster that “they are not ‘well regulated’ [and] are therefore not the body considered in the 2nd Amendment as protected.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; bateman; esquire; guncontrol; robertbateman; treason
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To: marktwain

This guy is a disgrace to the US Army. If you read the comments section to his article, Bateman occasionally responds to other comments like all snarky, arrogant liberals do. He thinks he is better than everyone else and only certain trusted people, like himself, should ever be armed. He is a total Stalinist, Obamabot suck-up. MOLON LABE.


61 posted on 12/05/2013 6:37:20 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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To: marktwain

“Officers on active duty are generally forbidden from doing this sort of thing, so one wonders if he received special dispensation to publish this article. As he is stationed in D.C., the natural speculation is that he is doing so with the blessings of the administration.”

He’s figured out the fast track to general in today’s America.


62 posted on 12/05/2013 6:38:12 PM PST by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: LeoWindhorse
>> probably a JAG....

Definitely a jagoff.

63 posted on 12/05/2013 6:38:15 PM PST by NorthMountain
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To: marktwain

Only an idiot would think that the Bill of Rights exists to protect the governments ability to be armed.

Another name on the list.


64 posted on 12/05/2013 6:55:37 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: bunkerhill7

Bateman and Robbin`

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How about you show a little respect?

That would be “Master” Bateman (and Robbin) to you, Sir. /sarc


65 posted on 12/05/2013 6:56:49 PM PST by man_in_tx (Blowback (Faithfully farting twowards Mecca five times daily).)
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To: marktwain
It’s time to talk about guns and the Supreme Court.”

I've got a better topic for "Bateman": It's time to talk about Ft. Hood, the Justice Dept., Eric Holder, and why that bastard Hasan is still soaking up building heat.

66 posted on 12/05/2013 7:05:30 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Drugs do not give the citizenry the ability to actively and powerfully resist tyranny.

That is true, but my point was that we wouldn't even be discussing the gun rights question in this country if we hadn't opened the door to this type of thinking by granting the federal government the legal (and moral) authority to regulate things like individual drug use. That was the nose under the tent. Once we accepted that the government had the authority to do that, the the gun question becomes simply a matter of whether it should, not whether it can.
67 posted on 12/05/2013 7:09:19 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: marktwain

Better interpretation of the 2nd Amendment:

A standing military being needed for a viable nation, this country will have one; notwithstanding, the people retain the right to own and responsibly use the same weapons as that military.


68 posted on 12/05/2013 7:09:56 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: rarestia
This is chilling. I pray that no enlistedman or woman thinks this way.

Unfortunately, many do. Far more than you'd think.

69 posted on 12/05/2013 7:22:04 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: SC_Pete

So now we are seeing zampolits in our military.


70 posted on 12/05/2013 7:24:00 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: marktwain

At least Benedict Arnold was a general.


71 posted on 12/05/2013 7:38:24 PM PST by Studebaker Hawk (These geeks are a dime-a-dozen. I'm looking for the man with the dimes. Freddy Blassy)
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To: marktwain
Desk officers are always talking about war and military actions but have never seen action. Not till you have been in the shit do you really know. That first coming and not going round that snaps by your head and you say this is not a game. How about the first time you put the bead on another human and see the red mist. How about the first time you see one of your buddy's hit or KIA and you have seen the pictures of his wife and kids. There are millions of deer rifles out there with Americans that can hit a deer at 200-600 meters. You feel frogee Bateman? You should bring your lunch and dinner as it's going to be a long bloody day.
72 posted on 12/05/2013 7:47:48 PM PST by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!)
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To: armydawg505

Concur.

He just violated his Oath of Office.

What a dirtbag (with apologies to all the dirtbags out there).

A disgrace to the uniform.


73 posted on 12/05/2013 10:09:19 PM PST by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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To: NorthMountain

f-ing JAGs , the great curse of our modern military

their best deploy is for IED detection detail .
out in front of the K-9’s


74 posted on 12/05/2013 10:24:01 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: marktwain

Planting the seeds of progressive gun control into the Pentagon mindset now will make it easier to justify “any means necessary” confiscation using military resources when the time comes.


75 posted on 12/05/2013 10:31:10 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Fred Hayek

Seems so. The officers being purged need to have a meeting.


76 posted on 12/06/2013 3:23:33 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Is it even known who wrote the Second Amdnedment? The Framers didn’t author the Bill of Rights it is a collection of what what the states threw back at them to add to the Consitution before they’d consider signing it.


77 posted on 12/06/2013 3:37:04 AM PST by Justa
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To: jonno
I just finished The ‘Enemies’ trilogy written by our own Travis McGee (Matt Bracken).

Wow. I just completed book three yesterday myself! Matt did an amazing job of forecasting a lot of what is now actual fact, rather than just a fictional account. Here's hoping we can avert going all the way down that road.

78 posted on 12/06/2013 5:40:55 AM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: ctdonath2
A standing military being needed for a viable nation,

Dear God, NO! The Founders were extremely suspicious of standing armies and the potential for tyranny they represent. That is why the concept of the citizens' militia (the whole of the armed people) was written into the Bill of Rights.

Standing armies, whether federal, state, or local police, have gotten us to where we are now.

79 posted on 12/06/2013 6:13:59 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: armydawg505
He swore to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution, no change, destroy or ignore the Constitution.

BUMP!

80 posted on 12/06/2013 7:24:21 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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