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Nelson Mandela, anti-apartheid icon and father of modern South Africa, dies
CNN ^ | 12-05-2013 | By Faith Karimi

Posted on 12/05/2013 2:11:15 PM PST by Red Badger

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To: a fool in paradise

WHy? did he play football?................


261 posted on 12/06/2013 12:22:20 PM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: Red Badger

ABCDISNEYESPN apparently has an agenda to push.

ESPN’s SportsCenter goes wall to wall with Mandela coverage...Huh?!
ESPN

Posted on Thursday, December 05, 2013 8:15:43 PM by SoFloFreeper
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3098716/posts


262 posted on 12/06/2013 12:23:47 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: a fool in paradise

The only time I watch ESPN is on Monday Night Football. The rest of the time it’s anything else................


263 posted on 12/06/2013 12:38:45 PM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: GeronL
or got old and tired....

His opponents are the ones who were "tired."

264 posted on 12/06/2013 12:39:43 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp. Go Michigan State!)
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To: All

I have mixed views on the late President Mandela. Yes, President Mandela helped in ending Apartheid and for that he must be given credit for. Apartheid was wrong. Of course in Africa, the worst violence there are Blacks of 1 ethnic group killing Blacks of another-Rwanda, Congo and Apartheid was not genocide.

President Mandela forgave those who practiced Apartheid. With him being a terrorist, he did go to prison. No, I would not have voted for him, but South African citizens did vote for him in a democratic election and though his Socialist politics including friendship with Fidel Castro (murderous dictator) is wrong, Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe is worse.

With Zimbabwe, President Robert Mugabe in 1986 was different from who he has been since 2000. Since 2000, Zimbabwe’s President Robert Mugabe has become a corrupt dictator and in 2008 Queen Elizabeth revoked his knighthood. The fact that Robert Mugabe has been a dictator since 2000 takes away from any good he did such as helping Zimbabwe’s independence.

With President Mandela, we can differ with his Socialist politics and the apologism he has for homosexuality is wrong. But what he did to end Apartheid is what he must be given credit for and he was not a dictator unlike Mugabe as again, it was the South African citizens who voted him President. That’s my view.


265 posted on 12/06/2013 12:45:55 PM PST by JRJohnson
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To: JRJohnson
Apartheid was wrong.

No worse than what tribes to do each other throughout the continent.

266 posted on 12/06/2013 12:47:45 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp. Go Michigan State!)
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To: JRJohnson
But what he did to end Apartheid is what he must be given credit for

Yep he was slaughtering innocent men, women and children both white and black in the name of Marxist revolution.

That is what I have been saying.

267 posted on 12/06/2013 12:49:37 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

Apartheid was going to end with or without him, like the Soviet Union, it’s days were numbered because it simply wasn’t sustainable.


268 posted on 12/06/2013 12:52:46 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp. Go Michigan State!)
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To: GeronL

As said, I have mixed views. Mandela said that it was NOT a war against Whites but a war against Apartheid. There were I think also Whites who were in the ANC. I do not support his Marxist views and as said, I opposed his friendship with Fidel Castro-the dictator who has jailed, executed and killed opponents in name of Cuba’s Communism. Yes, Blacks killing other Blacks in Africa’s genocide is worse and again, agree with you that Apartheid was not genocide.

But Apartheid is still wrong. If a govt. had a policy which discriminated against us, treated us poorly, we would be protesting against it, using violent means, etc. Mandela spent many years in prison so the law did punish him for trying to overthrow the govt. Mandela again forgave those who practiced Apartheid and as I understand, when he was President he hired those who practiced this because he believed what is past is past and time.

I don’t think Mandela should have been President because again, I differ with his Marxist views, his pro-homosexual views. But he can’t be compared to a Dictator Robert Mugabe because again, Mandela was democratically elected in South Africa by their citizens.


269 posted on 12/06/2013 1:19:06 PM PST by JRJohnson
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To: JRJohnson

he was not at war against apartheid

he was at war in favor of Marxism

this is why he and his group necklaced and machete hacked hundreds of blacks who didn’t join them


270 posted on 12/06/2013 1:24:27 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GOPsterinMA; sickoflibs; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Perdogg; Impy; Clintonfatigued

“...At least Kennedy was an American...”

No, he was a Democrat.

“American” and “Democrat” have become mutually exclusive terms, buddy.

And as for Mandela... I have to wonder what White South Africans thought of him. Probably not too fondly...


271 posted on 12/06/2013 1:30:08 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: dfwgator

Chuckle...


272 posted on 12/06/2013 1:31:07 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

This one obviously thought fondly of him. Of course she can leave the country at will.

273 posted on 12/06/2013 1:32:17 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp. Go Michigan State!)
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To: JRJohnson; GeronL

“...Mandela said that it was NOT a war against Whites but a war against Apartheid...”

White South Africans who had their farms taken, their land confiscated and “redistributed”, etc., would probably disagree with you.

Strongly.


274 posted on 12/06/2013 1:36:12 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: dfwgator

I don’t know who she is...

But she can keep him.


275 posted on 12/06/2013 1:38:32 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Charlize Theron.


276 posted on 12/06/2013 1:45:46 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp. Go Michigan State!)
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To: GeronL

JUan Williams is doing a pile-on of admiration for Nelson,, Beckel is doing a follow-up of how big a star he was in the eyes of youth here when he visited.

Fox News is dead.. comatose..
They’re Onboard to ObamaGeddon.

Comrades committed to Capitulation .. and worse.


277 posted on 12/06/2013 2:08:11 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: dfwgator

Another interchangeable, completely replaceable Hollywood bimbette... Standard Cyberdyne Systems Model 101(F) Liberal.

They all look alike to me...


278 posted on 12/06/2013 2:08:23 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Juan Williams - Bruthas, after all.

Beckel’s just a liberal lunatic.

But that’s redundant, isn’t it...


279 posted on 12/06/2013 2:09:51 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: volunbeer
"Our founding fathers rebelled against England and were labeled terrorists by our colonial rulers. They wanted self-determination and were willing to die for it and lose everything. If this sounds familiar great. If not, God bless and each is entitled to his own opinion."

Comparing our founding fathers to a Communist, Israel-hating, white-hating terrorist.

Unfreakingbelievable.

280 posted on 12/06/2013 2:14:45 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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