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Young people have bailed on Obama. Why that matters a lot.
wapo ^ | Dec. 4, 2013 | Sean Sullivan and Scott Clement

Posted on 12/05/2013 6:14:10 AM PST by PROCON

One of President Obama's chief political assets has been his ability to excite young people like almost no politician in history. But the days of America's youth fawning over the president are over.

A new Harvard University Institute of Politics poll released Wednesday confirms what other surveys have shown in recent months: Millennials have soured on Obama so much this year that their opinion of him largely mirrors the American public's.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


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To: InvisibleChurch

Probably correct about Hillary.

Plus, this poll also shows only 4% of the youths would change their vote to Romney if they had a chance to do it over again today.

They may truly be a lost generation.


101 posted on 12/05/2013 7:44:39 PM PST by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: MrB

>>>But have they bailed on their love affair with socialism?

No.

A libertarian historian named Ralph Raico talks about this in one of his lectures. When he first began teaching history and politician science, he would have his students “compare and contrast” sections of the US Constitution with sections of the Communist Manifesto. He no longer does that because most of his incoming students already overwhelmingly agree with the sentiments of the latter rather than the former.

>>>Or are they just disappointed in Obama because they thought that he’d be the one they’d been waiting for to implement it “right”?

Yes.

Many lefties I know wanted Obama to implement a single-payer system. “He didn’t go far enough with Obamacare” they say. When I point out the vast decline in medical outcomes under single-payer systems, accompanied by vast increases in waiting times, they stick their heads in the sand and go into denial mode, “That’s not true!!”

Deny, deny, deny.


102 posted on 12/05/2013 8:18:13 PM PST by GoodDay
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To: Chuzzlewit

And I bet that Hitlery runs against Palin. Obummer is going to have things sooo screwed up that Palin will be the breath of fresh air.


103 posted on 12/05/2013 8:38:26 PM PST by SisterK (would Satan be considered the first shapeshifter?)
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To: KeyLargo

Scored 22. Reckon I am half way between baby boomer and generation x (whatever that is).


104 posted on 12/05/2013 8:54:09 PM PST by SisterK (would Satan be considered the first shapeshifter?)
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To: MrB
strict application of the 10th amendment. Or secession.

Secede New England and New York City. It was their parlor pinks who started all this. Those people have been a bane to the Republic for the last 180 years, ever since the Tariff of Abominations.

And cut their copper and fiber-optic cables.

105 posted on 12/05/2013 10:51:06 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: stanne
Raise the voting age to 21.

Better: Require a DD214 for a voting card. Starship Troopers Spartiate society.

That'll take care of all the ex-LUG pink spinsters with M.A. and Ph.D. degrees who hate men, freedom, and America in no particular order, and who are "married" to the United States Government as a proxy husband.

If the Democratic Caucus of Congress were a sperm bank, they'd really be in business.

106 posted on 12/05/2013 10:56:10 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: GoodDay
He no longer does that because most of his incoming students already overwhelmingly agree with the sentiments of the latter rather than the former.

He should rethink. It were better if he got them to acknowledge their infatuation and declare openly for Communism. It would bring them out in the open and deprive them of concealment.

Out in the open where they can be lased.

107 posted on 12/05/2013 10:59:25 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

Well, maybe not a DD214, but some standard. Oh, a DD214 for anyone under 21.

Ok

And landowners or mortgage holders only something like that. Welfare disqualifies voting. Conflict of interest. Ditto ebt


108 posted on 12/05/2013 11:03:30 PM PST by stanne
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To: Jay Thomas

79 score, 30 years old, no piercings or tats. But I qualify as a millennial. I’ve voted R in every presidential election since 2004.


109 posted on 12/05/2013 11:05:08 PM PST by mbennett203 ("Bulrog, a tough brute ninja who has dedicated his life to eradicating the world from hippies.")
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To: lentulusgracchus

Well, maybe not a DD214, but some standard. Oh, active duty military ID for anyone under 21.

Ok

And landowners or mortgage holders only something like that. Welfare disqualifies voting. Conflict of interest. Ditto ebt


110 posted on 12/05/2013 11:11:10 PM PST by stanne
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To: SisterK
Reckon I am half way between baby boomer and generation x (whatever that is).

Boomers are people who were born between World War II and January 1, 1965. X'ers were born between 1965 and ~1982. The generation succeeding, Gen. Y (q.v. in Wiki; also called "Millennials"), was born from 1982 to (about) 2001 (2005, by some), or since we're dealing in Phenomena and Turning Points, 9/11. Arguably.

I'm not sure what label will be stuck on Generation Z, but they're kids born in this century. Terms like "digital natives" and "plurals" (representing a post-American America only 55% Caucasian and least-believing in any "American Dream" -- Obama's kind of kids!) have been bandied around, but nothing has stuck yet.

111 posted on 12/05/2013 11:12:21 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: erod
Chicago is lost until we rid this city of the Socialist Democratic Party robots. With the abundance of illegals, because Chicago is a sanctuary city thanx to Rahm Emanuel, and with the large number of leftists in govt., the arts, etc. like rats and roaches, they need to be destroyed, b/4 this city has a chance to flourish. The black population of “revruns” and generational welfare types pose a problem..they're all on the take, don't play well with others, are the source of all crime in the city, and listening to Chicago police calls will confirm this. They want their cut and perks, and so graft and greed and thuggery is the norm in this city. I have my memories of good days in the 40s and 50s in this city, but it started going down in the 1960s, and now it looks shabby and run down, unless you live in the gentrified areas of the city. Don't know how, don't know when, but I do hope for a return of the city my grandfather knew of, he being a blacksmith for the Union Stock Yards in Chicago in the 1900s, full of hope and hard work, love of family, belief in God and country, and grateful for the wonderful opportunities the USA offered him when he emigrated to the USA from Lithuania and communist rulers. And to that prayer I say Amen.
112 posted on 12/05/2013 11:24:39 PM PST by itssme
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To: lentulusgracchus

>>>It would bring them out in the open and deprive them of concealment.

They’re already out in the open and they’re not concealing anything. They openly and proudly agree with the Communist Manifesto and sympathize completely with it. They all agree with the old excuse that “communism is great in theory, but unfortunately, bad people came to power under it.” They don’t understand — or don’t want to understand — that ONLY bad people can come to power under communism.


113 posted on 12/06/2013 12:00:13 AM PST by GoodDay
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To: Faith65
Consider though, that something could happen (civil unrest/ false flag event) and martial law ensues whereby the elections are suspended.

There were over 600,000 hunters this season in the state of Wisconsin.

Allow me to restate that number: 600,000!

Over the last several months, Wisconsin's hunters became the eighth largest army in the world (that’s more men under arms than in Iran. More than France and Germany combined).

These men deployed to the woods of a single American state, Wisconsin, to hunt with firearms.

That number pales in comparison to the 750,000 who hunted the woods of Pennsylvania and Michigan's 700,000 hunters.

Toss in a quarter million hunters in West Virginia and it literally establishes the fact that the hunters of those four states alone would comprise the largest army in the world.

Then add in the total number of hunters in the other 46 states. It's millions more. In fact, armed American citizens number about 100,000,000 by best estimates. Those 100 million own approximately 300 million firearms.

The point?

America will forever be safe from foreign invasion or domestic despotism with that kind of home-grown firepower!

Hunting... it's not just a way to fill the freezer. It's a matter of national security.

114 posted on 12/06/2013 12:01:20 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Hunt-a-traitor?


115 posted on 12/06/2013 12:04:10 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Smedley
I still want them to suffer ten more years for their stupidity. They turned off their brains in the name of liberal idealism. They should feel the effects of such actions until they’ll never forget.

Obama has guaranteed that they'll never forget. This week he doubled down on Obamacare when he stated that it will never be repealed as long as he's in office.

He's sentenced the whole country to a degree of pain and suffering that we haven't witnessed in living memory. It won't be soon forgotten, and his party will pay dearly for it for decades to come.

116 posted on 12/06/2013 12:05:14 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Evil has to get this obvious, sometimes, before we will learn that there is a better way to go.


117 posted on 12/06/2013 12:07:18 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Windflier

Good morning.

I have already heard those numbers. One can only hope and pray that our republic can be saved before it’s too late.


118 posted on 12/06/2013 12:09:51 AM PST by Faith65 (Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior!)
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To: Biggirl
Prediction: Hillary will not run, simply because for one of two reasons, by 2016, she will either have health issues or focus her new title: grandmother.

Indeed. Hillary will be 69 in 2016. Practically a septuagenarian. The years haven't been kind to her. By the time the next election rolls around, she'll look like death warmed over. She's not far from that now.

She's also been on the national stage for far too long. She's had as long a career as some of the longest serving congress critters. They can get away with staying in gov't service that long because we don't often see or hear about most of them. Hillary, on the other hand, has been in the news nearly every month since 1992. That has created a certain fatigue factor on the part of the public. Americans don't do 'royalty' all that well.

Another Freeper called her the "Kim Kardashian of American politics". In other words, she's famous for being famous. She has no real accomplishments to recommend her to the office of President.

If Hillary were an up-and-coming young Democrat Senator, bursting with newness and fresh ideas, she might have a chance, but she's everything but that.

119 posted on 12/06/2013 12:16:04 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: albie
Similar to youth sobering up during Carter years. Vote like a fool, graduate, no jobs, suddenly awake.

That's a great insight. I was that youth you just described, and it sure as hell woke me up. I didn't vote for the Rs right away, but I was lost to the Dems for good after Carter.

120 posted on 12/06/2013 12:18:33 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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