Posted on 12/02/2013 9:12:49 AM PST by TheBigB
Edited on 12/02/2013 9:14:42 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
The Supreme Court on Monday refused to hear a challenge to ObamaCare brought by a Virginia-based Christian university, ending for now one of the biggest remaining legal fights against the health care law.
The justices, in turning away the lawsuit from Liberty University and leaving in place a federal appeals court ruling dismissing it, did not comment on their decision. The decision comes less than a week after the high court agreed to hear a challenge from Hobby Lobby and one other company to the law's so-called contraception mandate -- the requirement on most employers to provide access to contraceptive coverage.
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“Why did the Supremes agree to hear the Hobby Lobby case, but not this one? I dont get it...”
Because they have no problem with requiring employers to offer health benefits to employees. The only question they’re willing to consider is whether those companies then have any right to determine what types of procedures are covered under those benefits. It’s a much narrower question.
Blackmail is a bad thing.
I heard on the radio thant Notre Dame filled a law suit against Obamacare, today.
With 5 Catholics on the Supreme Court, perhaps they are avoiding having to vote on this issue.
Exactly right. The contraceptive challenge is alive and well and will be decided in Hobby Lobby. The only additional issue Liberty University raised was the claim that it is unconstitutional to require employers to provide any health insurance at all. The lower courts all rejected this argument; the reasoning is that if the Commerce Clause permits Congress to set minimum wages (something SCOTUS has upheld for more than 50 years), it also authorizes Congress to set minimum benefits.
The new racism is “spiritual racism”
Truer words...
Correct. We will remove Obama only to elect the next socialist who comes along. Middle America -- even nominal conservatives -- like socialist wealth transfer programs. Middle America looks to government to solve problems and give aid to individuals.
This will continue until the MSM is toppled and replaced.
Conservatives should be directing their energies at toppling the Associated Press and other wire services. We waste energy bitching about Obama, Clinton, et al.
>>Maybe the American people truly believe in tyranny. Just so long as they have their football, pizza, and beer
The people (as Liberty University) were FIGHTING tyranny using legal means. The black-robed tyrants of the court simply told them “No!” and sent them home to their football, pizza, and beer.
As long as we continue to “trust” the judiciary, then we are agreeing to tyranny by default. These days, the courts serve the man who is King of Northeast America and Overlord of the Rest.
Because Liberty is established to uphold A) the Christian moral law on which the Bill of Rights and the Constitution were founded and B) has a law school and a law foundation, the SCOTUS knew it couldn’t win one for the left. So it refused to play.
A Christian university with a law school. The SCOTUS schoolyard bullies were afraid, very afraid...
Love it! Alternate spelling: "Lowinfoes".
In the Wonderland of our USSC, I am surmising that it needs to show up there as an explicit tax case.
In the Wonderland of our USSC, I am surmising that it needs to show up there as an explicit tax case. (And that’s not how it was formulated.)
AND Thatcher. It burns my a$$ that Dear Leader has ordered the White House flag at half-staff until Monday for Mandela, but didn't even send anyone of importance to Margaret's funeral.
IIRC, when Zero took his gazillion-dollar entourage to Africa last year, Mandela wouldn't see him.
You are mistaken. He was raised Catholic and after an estrangement over his perception of the RCC not doing enough for civil rights, was reconciled to the RCC and remains a Catholic.
And you are implying that the Catholics and Jews who make it all the way to the Supreme Court are actually practicing Biblical Christianity or Judaism. Far from it. Name one orthodox Jew who has ever served in public office in recent times other than Joe Leiberman. Or one Catholic in public office who can be presumed to be reliably conservative. Here's a few who cannot: Pelosi, any Kennedy, Cuomo, Kerry, Di Blasio, Chris Christie... etc.
There are plenty of bad politicians of all stripes. To say that Catholics automatically can’t be trusted on the Supreme Court is bigotry and unworthy of this forum.
No one said automatic. It is completely reasonable to consider the long, documented history of Catholic involvement in socialism, unionism and Democratic Partyism in this country, all of which are promoters of abortion, birth control, promiscuity, homosexuality and other moral outrages that contradict church teaching. Take a look at the many ostensibly Catholic universities like Georgetown, with its Saudi-funded "Muslim-Christian Understanding" institute, its "Sex Positive" week of filth on campus, its co-ed dorms and feminist faculty walking off the commencement platform in a huff when the invited speaker lauded the traditional family and decried the increasing acceptance of sexual immorality such as homosexualty -- and that was over a decade ago.
It's impossible not to be at least very wary of the political influence of prominent Catholics such as the worthies at Notre Dame who invited the biggest promoter of abortion in this nation to give their commencement address, then arrested pro-life demonstrators on their campus. And how about Massachusetts, home of one of the largest Irish Catholic communities in the nation, and also the place that first legalized gay marriage, holds gay proms with transvestite chaperones for the children, and adopted Romneycare -- it's the east coast bastion of left-wingism.
Given the political behavior of the majority of Catholics in this country, a reasonable degree of scrutiny and skepticism about Catholics on the Court is not bigotry. It's recognizing a contradictory reality, very much like the black voters' adherence to the Democrat plantation in spite of the Dem Party's history of denying Civil Rights until the Republicans forced it through, then claiming it was Democrats all along, not even to mention their dastardly promotion of abortion and socialism that keep blacks down.
And btw, Jim Robinson is the arbiter of what is worthy of this Forum, highhat.
Well done.
Now, if you had said all that at the beginning, instead of tossing off a little anti-Catholic bias, we would not have had a problem.
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