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To: BillyBoy; Impy; fieldmarshaldj

Except as competing visions those libs who push gay rights crap are overwhelmingly winning over those like Levin who claim that some state of America in the 1700s that he describes is the only legitimate one.

The libs portray their vision as a future moving forward one.(’lean forward’). It is attractive sounding to the young. Obviously the problems with Obamacare are setbacks but only to the co.llectivist part of progressivism

Levin is obviously preaching about some past state (even before he was born) that can never come back, that never will be again, if it ever was the way he portrays it.

The Founding Fathers couldn’t have Dreamed of today’s world, the one we have to live in.


124 posted on 11/30/2013 9:48:15 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: sickoflibs
Excellent point. That's the real problem -- both sides blindly worship their overlord (who can do no wrong in their eyes) and use similarly flawed, in-your-face arguments to pitch their destructive agenda, but the Obamabots on the left are succeeding wildly whereas as the Levinites on the right are pushing stuff that's politically poisonous to voters and that they have ZERO chance of actually enacting.

The difference lies in the marketing... Obamabots portray their agenda as hip, cool, trendy, the wave of the future, inevitable, and preach the idea that its a noble crusade for a "civil right" and you must be a bigot and a hate-monger if you don't do what they want. Don't you want to be on the modern day side of Martin Luther King?

The Levinites could care less about emotional "love/popularity/tolerance" arguments and won't bother trying to convince anyone that empowering state politicians is a "civil right", even when they scream that state legislators are being discriminated against by the feds. And you really can't claim that having politicians appointed Senators in cutting edge unless a bunch of European nations started passing it tomorrow to cheering throngs of MTV viewers. As it stands, most of these Europeans nations have ALREADY had that "ideal" system in place for centuries, and everyone over there is sick and tired of it. If you want to be "hip and cool and forward thinking" over there, you promise to have a popularly elected Senate, even if have no intent whatsoever of actually doing it.

125 posted on 12/01/2013 12:01:53 AM PST by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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