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To: livius; Kaslin; corlorde; ElkGroveDan

Though I'd just as soon see this as another of Obama's "in your face" type of behavior, the only support for that is seeming to go against the Vatican's past expressed desires for diplomatic relations to themselves from nations, be separate from ambassadorial relations of those nations, with the nation of Italy itself.

As it is, there will remain a U.S. Ambassador to the Vatican itself, though that offices headquarters will now be housed in the same building as Embassy Rome. If it makes anyone feel any better...I read that there will be a separate entrance, just for Embassy Vatican.

Let us all not read too much into this, for "safety" may have been something of an issue. Besides...it would be tough for any now opposing the move, if that separate embassy 'building' as it were, came under attack. This may be one reason the "Vatican" as far as I know, has for now not ventured comment.

Let us keep our powder dry here, folks.

Obama can be seen clearly enough as enemy of Christianity for other reasons. Washington once again backing off from Iran, and this time seeming to acquiesce in some form to Iranian demands they have some "right to" nuclear weapons (the devil is in the details of the details of this latest "diplomatic deal" with the Iranians, whatever the h_ _ _ that actually is) is the real problem, not the consolidation of diplomatic offices for both U.S. diplomatic mission to Italy, and to the Vatican, into one building, in Rome.

38 posted on 11/27/2013 11:40:06 AM PST by BlueDragon (bless their littl 'ol hearts)
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To: BlueDragon

I agree. There was a thread on this yesterday. The US Vatican embassy isn’t in the Vatican. And it’s apparantly going into a new building (so not just a different door) on the Rome Embassy’s grounds. With assurances that the two embassies will remain distinct...

This probably makes sense from a security standpoint, and is going to save money. I bet the current Vatican Embassy is worth millions for both the building and land.


40 posted on 11/27/2013 11:45:13 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: BlueDragon

The Vatican wouldn’t say anything about this one way or the other, regardless of the opinion of the Pope or anybody else involved.

There may be practical reasons, but since the current building was just reinforced a couple of years ago, I doubt it.

I still see it as a message. I agree that the essential problem is the very vague “deal” with Iran - which seems to give them everything they want, and to us, nothing - but I can’t see that folding embassy Vatican into a room at embassy Rome - even with a separate entrance - is anything but downgrading.


44 posted on 11/27/2013 12:08:38 PM PST by livius
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To: BlueDragon
Let us all not read too much into this, for "safety" may have been something of an issue.

Safety isn't an issue. The Vatican embassy is a secure as the Italian one -- possibly more so. You have to understand the subtleties of international diplomacy. This is a slap in the face to the Vatican and to Catholics the world over, and it is INTENDED to be nothing less than that. Quit averting your eyes and see hedonist, left-wing, evil for what it is.

46 posted on 11/27/2013 12:27:05 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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