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The Gay Agenda's "Planned, Psychological Attack" on Straight America
The Christian Post ^ | November 22, 2013 | James R. Aist

Posted on 11/22/2013 1:44:42 PM PST by James R. Aist

In the present article, I draw your attention to a couple of publications in the late 1980s that have provided a blueprint for the homosexual movement to the present day, a plan of action for a massive and unrelenting propaganda campaign to win over the hearts and minds of the heterosexual majority. The success of the homosexual movement depends absolutely on the successful execution of this plan, because the entire gay-lesbian population is only about 1.5% of the general population and could not possibly wield much power and influence by itself. If you have been paying any attention at all to what has been going on around you regarding the issues of homosexuality, then you will recognize readily the relentless following of this plan by gay activists in America and elsewhere.

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I believe that straight Americans, and in particular, born-again Christians, need to be aware, not only that we are being manipulated, but also how we are being manipulated, by the homosexual movement.
1 posted on 11/22/2013 1:44:42 PM PST by James R. Aist
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To: James R. Aist

What seems to have caused you to excerpt your material?


2 posted on 11/22/2013 1:45:56 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: James R. Aist

we need a cogent argument to the “its inevitable” meme.

I treat it like saying rapists are “inevitable” and it will either shut the useful idiot up or anger the leftist.


3 posted on 11/22/2013 1:52:17 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: James R. Aist
"...not only that we are being manipulated..."

Re: Saul Alinsky...

RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)

RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)

4 posted on 11/22/2013 2:00:44 PM PST by yoe ( Defund Obamacare now — or risk voter backlash in 2014)
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To: longtermmemmory

You could say to a homosexual man that through his carnal behavior his contracting AIDS is ‘’inevitable’’.


5 posted on 11/22/2013 2:01:51 PM PST by jmacusa (I don't think so, but I doubt it.)
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To: humblegunner

The Gay Agenda's "Planned, Psychological Attack" on Straight America

Thu, Nov. 01, 2012 Posted: 12:00 AM


James R. Aist

".. .by conversion [toward public acceptance of homosexuality] we mean... conversion of the average American's emotions, mind, and will, through a planned psychological attack, in the form of propaganda fed to the nation via the media." "...our effect is achieved without reference to facts, logic, or proof." – Kirk & Madsen, After the Ball, 1989, page 153.

Introduction

In an earlier article, I presented a partial list of action points of the "Gay Agenda" (Click HERE),
without going into much detail about any one of them. In the present article, I draw your attention to a couple of publications in the late 1980s that have provided a blueprint for the homosexual movement to the present day, a plan of action for a massive and unrelenting propaganda campaign to win over the hearts and minds of the heterosexual majority. The success of the homosexual movement depends absolutely on the successful execution of this plan, because the entire gay-lesbian population is only about 1.5% of the general population and could not possibly wield much power and influence by itself. If you have been paying any attention at all to what has been going on around you
regarding the issues of homosexuality, then you will recognize readily the relentless following of this plan by gay activists in America and elsewhere.

Why would I bother to put this information together and publish it? Because, I believe that straight Americans, and in particular, born-again Christians, need to be aware, not only that we are being manipulated, but also how we are being manipulated, by the homosexual movement. With this knowledge, we should be better able to 1) keep ourselves from being negatively influenced or
discouraged, and 2) stay the course in our opposition to the homosexual movement.

The Homosexual Propaganda Campaign

The primary source material for this article is found in two publications, both authored by two gay activists, Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen: 1) A 1987 article entitled "The Overhauling of Straight America" and published in Guide, a homosexual publication, in 1987 (for a synopsis with numerous direct quotes and a link to the article, click HERE); and, 2) a book, entitled "After the Ball: How America Will Conquer Its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90s", published in 1989 (for an extensive,
relevant excerpt from this book, click HERE). Keep in mind that the success of this homosexual propaganda campaign requires the eager cooperation of our overwhelmingly liberal media, in order to win over the heterosexual majority in America to their cause. The bulk of this information is presented here "in the authors' own words", via direct quotes, so as to discredit accusations of "right-wing, conservative, Christian bias" on my part.

This "planned, psychological attack" involves six distinct strategies that I think you will recognize as current events and which can be summarized as follows:

Desensitization: Talking about Gays and Gayness as Loudly and as Often as Possible

And I quote: "To desensitize the public is to help it view homosexuality with indifference instead of keen emotion. Desensitization aims at lowering the intensity of antigay emotional reactions to a level approximating sheer indifference. The way to benumb raw sensibilities about homosexuality is to have a lot of people talk a great deal about the subject in a neutral or supportive way. The masses should not be shocked and repelled by premature exposure to homosexual behavior itself. If gays can live alongside straights, visibly but as inoffensively as possible, they will arouse a low-grade alert only, which, though annoying to straights, will eventually diminish. Straights will be desensitized."

And I quote: "While public opinion is one primary source of mainstream values, religious authority is the other. When conservative churches condemn gays, there are only two things we can do to confound the homophobia of true believers. First we can use talk to muddy the moral waters. This means publicizing support for gays by more moderate churches, raising theological objections of our own about conservative interpretation of Biblical teaching and exposing hatred and inconsistency. We can undermine the moral authority of homophobic churches by portraying them as antiquated and backwards, badly out of step with the times and with the latest findings of psychology."

Another popular strategy used to undermine the moral authority of Christian churches is to repeatedly point out the moral failings of denominations, churches and church leaders. Unfortunately, there are more than enough of such moral failings to keep the gay activists supplied with fresh ammunition.

Jamming: Creating an "Incompatible Emotional Response"

And I quote: "In Jamming, the target is shown a bigot being rejected by his crowd for his prejudice against gays. All normal people feel shame when they perceive that they are not thinking, feeling, or acting like one of the pack. The trick is to get the bigot into the position of feeling a conflicting twinge of shame, along with his reward, whenever his homohatred surfaces, so that his reward will be diluted or spoiled. Thus, propagandistic advertisement can depict homophobic and homohating bigots being criticized, hated, shunned. It can depict gays experiencing horrific suffering as the direct result of homohatred -- suffering of which even most bigots would be ashamed to be the cause. The attack,
therefore, is on self-image and on the pleasure in hating. Remember, a bigot seeks approval and liking from 'his crowd.' When he sees someone like himself being disapproved of and disliked by ordinary Joes, he will feel just what they feel – and transfer it to himself. This wrinkle effectively elicits shame and doubt, Jamming any pleasure he might normally feel. Our effect is achieved without reference to facts, logic, or proof."

Examples of "Jamming" would include: 1) the repeated use of name-calling, e.g., "bigot", "liar", "fundie", "bible-thumper" and "homophobe" to create a feeling of shame; and 2) the repeated use of potentially disturbing accusations, e.g., "you are part of an ever-dwindling minority", "more and more churches are supporting gay rights", "you're losing" and "all of the mental health and medical associations say that there is nothing wrong or bad about being gay", all of which are designed to make the opposition –- such as born-again Christians — feel isolated, marginalized and out of the mainstream of society; 3) derogatory references to God as "your mythical sky fairy" and to His Word as the "buy-bull"; and 4) this trail of vitriolic comments from a single, pro-gay commenter concerning just one article about homosexuality published recently on a Christian website, and I quote...

"You have no right to interfere with the secular political culture of this country."

"You can believe this nonsense all you like but do it behind closed doors and in the
privacy of your own homes and churches."

"I don't want to hear another word about your weird cultish beliefs in the streets
and public squares."

"All religious evangelism is assault."

"Americans do not share your views anymore."

"You are a reactionary post-modern convulsion."

Portray Gays as Victims, Not as Aggressive Challengers

And I quote: "Gays must be cast as victims in need of protection so that straights will be inclined by reflex to assume the role of protector. If gays are presented, instead, as a strong and prideful tribe promoting a rigidly nonconformist and deviant lifestyle, they are more likely to be seen as a public menace that justifies resistance and oppression. A media campaign to promote the Gay Victim image should make use of symbols which reduce the mainstream's sense of threat, which lower its guard, and which enhance the plausibility of victimization. In practical terms, this means that sympathetic
figures of nice young people, old people, and attractive women would be featured."

And I quote: "The mainstream should be told that gays are victims of fate, in the sense that most never had a choice to accept or reject their sexual preference. The message must read: 'As far as gays can tell, they were born gay, just as you were born heterosexual or white or black or bright or
athletic. They never made a choice, and are not morally blameworthy. What they do isn't willfully contrary – it's only natural for them. This twist of fate could as easily have happened to you! Straight viewers must be able to identify with gays as victims. To this end, the persons featured in the public campaign should be decent and upright, appealing and admirable by straight standards, completely unexceptionable in appearance."

Witness here the bombardment of our visual media – TV, movies, comics, theater — with homosexual characters looking entirely normal and being fully approved and admired by heterosexual characters, and the continuing (bogus) claims that homosexuals are "born gay." And the gay lobby is not content just to have homosexuals represented proportionally on TV (click HERE). I did the math, and it turns out that they are already represented on TV shows at a rate that is nine times the percentage of homosexuals (1.5%) in the general population, and they are clamoring for more!

Give Heterosexual Protectors a Just Cause

And I quote: "Our campaign should not demand direct support for homosexual practices, but should instead take anti-discrimination as its theme. The right to free speech, freedom of beliefs, freedom of
association, due process and equal protection of laws–these should be the concerns brought to mind by our campaign. It is especially important for the gay movement to hitch its cause to accepted standards of law and justice because its straight supporters must have at hand a cogent reply to the moral arguments of its enemies. The homophobes clothe their emotional revulsion in the daunting
robes of religious dogma, so defenders of gay rights must be ready to counter dogma with principle."

Familiar examples would include couching "gay marriage" in terms of "civil rights", insisting on adoption "rights" for homosexual couples and demanding that openly gay boys and teens be welcomed into the Boy Scouts of America because "it's not their fault" that they like boys. All of these issues are being promoted in the name of "equality", and, unfortunately, mainstream America is buying into it.

Conversion: Make Gays Look Good to the Public

And I quote: "In order to offset the increasingly bad press that these times have brought to homosexual men and women, the campaign should paint gays as superior pillars of society: 'Did you know that this Great Man (or Woman) was ____?' Conversion aims at just this. We mean conversion of the average American's emotions, mind, and will, through a planned psychological attack, in the form of propaganda fed to the nation via the media. In Conversion, the bigot is repeatedly exposed in magazines, and on billboards and TV, to gays - explicitly labeled as such! – who are carefully
selected to look either like the bigot and his friends, or like any one of his other stereotypes of all-right guys– the kind of people he already likes and admires."

Witness here the eagerness of the liberal press to publicize the gayness of popular celebrities, whether they are music stars, movie stars, TV stars, sports stars, politicians, etc. This tactic is designed to create an internal conflict within the fan: "Do I dislike the celebrity because of his/her
homosexuality, or do I accept his/her homosexuality and continue to like the celebrity?" The average, uninformed or misinformed American is likely to choose the latter.

And I quote: "But it makes no difference that the ads are lies; not to us, because we're using them to ethically good effect. In Conversion, the target is shown his crowd actually associating with gays
in good fellowship. Once again, it's very difficult for the average person, who, by nature and training, almost invariably feels what he sees his fellows feeling, not to respond in this knee-jerk fashion to a sufficiently calculated advertisement."

I'm sure you have noticed the bombardment of our mainstream, liberal media –- TV, movies, magazines, newspapers, comics, theater, billboards and the internet — with homosexual characters looking entirely normal and being fully approved and admired by heterosexual characters and/or praised through rhetoric. Of course, nothing is said of the deviant and unnatural sexual practices, of the serious health dangers or of the immorality of practicing homosexuality.

Make the Anti-gay Victimizers Look Bad

And I quote: "At a later stage of the media campaign for gay rights it will be time to get tough with remaining opponents. To be blunt, they must be vilified. Our goal here is twofold. First, we seek to replace the mainstream's self-righteous pride about its homophobia with shame and guilt. Second, we
intend to make the antigays look so nasty that average Americans will want to dissociate themselves from such types. The public should be shown images of ranting homophobes whose secondary traits and beliefs disgust middle America. These images might include: the Ku Klux Klan demanding that gays be burned alive or castrated; bigoted southern ministers drooling with hysterical hatred to a degree that looks both comical and deranged; a tour of Nazi concentration camps where homosexuals were tortured and gassed."

Another common tactic used nowadays to vilify born-again Christians is to claim that the Bible approves of slavery, polygamy, incest, etc., in order to portray Christians as rank "cherry picking" hypocrites for selectively condemning the practice of homosexuality. Yet another common tactic is "jamming", as described above, where born-again Christians, in particular, are constantly subjected to name-calling, e.g., "bigot", "liar", "fundie", "bible-thumper" and "homophobe." And, of course, this strategy depends entirely upon the eager cooperation of our mainstream, liberal media – TV, movies, magazines, newspapers, comics, theater, billboards and the internet. And, as you will see below, even Christian websites are joining in.

The Use of Christian Websites to Attack Born-again Christians

I have personally investigated more than a dozen Christian websites that allow readers to comment on their feature articles, and most of them permit gay activists to freely use these very same "psychological attacks" – Jamming, Vilifying and Desensitization in particular -- via their Comments, against the born-again Christians who are among their readers and Commenters. These publications are free to filter comments any way they want to; the First Amendment does not prohibit them from doing so. Now, I don't know if the editors of these magazines are simply not aware that the homosexual movement is using them in this way – as a Trojan Horse, in effect — to attack born-again
Christians; or if, perhaps, they already know this but have their reasons to permit it anyway. But I do know this: everything is done for a reason, but not everything that is done has an excuse. And I do know that born-again Christians should be able to read Comments on Christian websites without being subjected to "planned psychological attacks" by gay activists.

The Antidotes

The Bible provides effective antidotes to help born-again Christians combat these psychological attacks. Jesus experienced similar psychological attacks and said: "Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you." (Matthew 5:11-12); "If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you." (John 15:19); and "I have given them your word and the world has hated them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of the world. My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one." (John 17:14-15). And Hebrews 12:2-3 reminds us that Jesus,
for the joy set before him, endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God, and then instructs us to consider Him (Jesus) who endured such opposition from sinners, so that we will not grow weary and lose heart.

Summary

In the late 1980s, two homosexual activists, Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen, published an article and a book detailing a "planned, psychological attack" on the straight opponents of the homosexual movement, especially targeting their strongest opponents...born-again Christians. These publications
rapidly became the main sources of strategic planning employed by homosexual activists to win over the hearts and minds of the heterosexual majority to their cause. Without the support of the heterosexual majority, Kirk and Madsen knew that the homosexual movement would be doomed to failure, because homosexuals make up only about 1.5% of the general population. These strategies
involved a massive and ongoing propaganda campaign, fueled by the liberal media, that called for the following – all too familiar -- courses of action: talking positively about gays and gayness as loudly and as often as possible, while keeping silent about the repulsive details of homosexual sex; creating an "Incompatible Emotional Response" in their opponents (called "Jamming"), to make their opposition feel isolated, marginalized and out of the mainstream of society; portraying gays as victims, not as the
aggressive challengers that they are; giving heterosexual protectors a just cause by couching their issues in terms of "rights", "equality" and "justice"; making gays look good by parading positive images of them before the public, using the liberal media to get their message out; and making the anti-gay victimizers look bad by comparing them to the worst elements of society. To them, it makes no difference that they are using lies to achieve their ends; they feel justified in doing so because, in their
minds, they are "using the lies to create an ethically good effect." These strategies constitute a large and essential component of the overall "gay agenda." Even Christian websites allow themselves to be used by the homosexual movement to carry out these psychological attacks against born-again
Christians! Fortunately, the Bible has effective antidotes that born-again Christians can use to combat this insidious psychological assault.

(For more articles by Professor Aist on HOMOSEXUALITY, click HERE)

By JamesRAist


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6 posted on 11/22/2013 2:03:01 PM PST by Bratch
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To: yoe
RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)

This is the tactic that we MUST employ when we take the reigns of power.

The Left screams bloody murder at the drop of a hat, so if we're going to take abuse for minor reforms, we might as well push for wholesale reform. There is an upper limit to complaining, and the Left is always at that limit.

7 posted on 11/22/2013 2:04:03 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: James R. Aist

I had a friend in high school who had a “confused” father who was very wealthy. All of a sudden he was having parties with all these gay guys at their house and had opened a business in the Houston Montrose area. Some of the people he knew were the early gay activists. They used to be at the parties and I would usually get thrown out of the parties for messing with them. This is what I would do (at age 16), I would wait until they got good and drunk and ask them basically ONE question after setting the question up:

ME: “So, you put your thing in his back side and then take it out then put it in his mouth. So, basically you folks eat sh*t?”

They would go INSANE over this. One, because I was a very attractive dude and they would all melt over me (I was very straight) but also because the question kicks them off their agenda. And that is to keep your mind and attention off the physical nature of what queers (their word) do. And that is that they eat sh*t. They did not like that, they wanted to talk about “love” and “feelings” and “relationships” and “caring”. I wanted to ask about eating poop. My buddy’s dad would always show me the door after I did this. FYI, I never pulled this stunt with the leather fags (their word), the guys with the chaps, mustaches and muscles. Those guys would kick your ass and in my case they wanted to do more than just kick it.

The whole gay, queer, fag, whatever thing to me has never been worth the country or the worlds time. I have to admit I felt sorry for most of the gay men I met and I met 100’s back then. They were all except for a rare one self-loathing, self-hating and really messed up people. None of them were in any position to tell the rest of us what is right or wrong. By the way, the ones that worked for my buddy’s father were thieves. They were real rascals in that regard. I think because he could never “come out” 100%.

Most of the things that they have done in the last several decades came out of the Houston Montrose area and San Francisco. Because they hate themselves so much they need, no, they DEMAND we see them as normal. They are not normal and they know it. Even still, I don’t care what they do as long as they understand I have their number and I understand what messed up souls they are. The problem is few people have met any real queers and they see them through the media filter (which they have built) and that filter is all hearts and flowers.

FYI, they have an Achilles heel and that is showing without a filter what they do physically. It is that simple, just show man on man oral and anal sex and watch America and the rest of the world react in disgust.


8 posted on 11/22/2013 2:08:59 PM PST by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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To: isthisnickcool
"FYI, they have an Achilles heel and that is showing without a filter what they do physically. It is that simple, just show man on man oral and anal sex and watch America and the rest of the world react in disgust."

I did just that in a reply to "leters" in our local liberal rag. Challenged the writers whining how mean it was to deny these relationships.

I pointed out if they were so confused why they were still rejected as "normal" perhaps they should explain what sort of sex play male homosexuals did with each other and then gauge the reaction.

Predictably, they went berserk, and avoided my suggestion entirely.

9 posted on 11/22/2013 2:47:58 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69
Motus Operatus for the SOCIALIST LEFT. Pick any SCAM these frauds are involved in and that's how they operate.
10 posted on 11/22/2013 3:06:00 PM PST by spawn44 (MOO)
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To: isthisnickcool

Another way to make them go ballistic is to say that homosexuality is a neurosis. It’s the truth, they know it’s the truth and they know that almost anyone who thinks it over will see that it’s true. The one thing that they don’t get is that their reaction to that reveals how deeply neurotic they are.


11 posted on 11/22/2013 3:19:11 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: TigersEye

I get them with the evolution angle. I ask them what the evolutionary benefit of fudgepacking is? Then I point out that it actually shortens their lives on average and that it is an evolutionary dead end.


12 posted on 11/22/2013 3:31:24 PM PST by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: isthisnickcool

“Most of the things that they have done in the last several decades came out of the Houston Montrose area and San Francisco. Because they hate themselves so much they need, no, they DEMAND we see them as normal.”

More evidence that it truly IS abnormal. If it were normal, they wouldn’t care what anyone else thought. Even if they were able to make everyone agree with them by force, it would never change these verses of Scripture:

“Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonouring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever! Amen. For this reason God gave them up to dishonourable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.” Romans 1:24-27

“Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practise homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine, in accordance with the gospel of the glory of the blessed God with which I have been entrusted.”-1 Timothy 1:8-11

“Do you not know that the unrighteous and the wrongdoers will not inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived (misled): neither the impure and immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor those who participate in homosexuality, Nor cheats (swindlers and thieves), nor greedy graspers, nor drunkards, nor foulmouthed revilers and slanderers, nor extortioners and robbers will inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God.”-1 Corinthians 6:9-10

Or how Christ defined marriage:

“And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”-Matthew 19:4-6


13 posted on 11/22/2013 4:10:14 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: James R. Aist
Just today, the Atlanta paper features an attack on the local chapter of the Urban League for giving an award to Chick-fil-A's Dan Cathy:

Urban League under fire for giving Chick-Fil-A CEO equality award

The fact that Cathy well deserved the award in question is irrelevant.

14 posted on 11/22/2013 4:24:46 PM PST by madprof98
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To: isthisnickcool
"FYI, they have an Achilles heel and that is showing without a filter what they do physically. It is that simple, just show man on man oral and anal sex and watch America and the rest of the world react in disgust."

This is what needs to happen. People associate the word "gay" with well-dressed,, feminine little flitters who gossip and giggle while they do your hair. Laying out in bald terms the perversions they engage in is a kind of shock therapy.

I've stopped saying "gay"; fag, queer, or sodomite works fine for me. And when I get called on being so mean, I remind the person of the homosexual fecal obsession. To be honest, I don't enjoy talking about that kind of thing, but I am sick of people fawning over queers.

15 posted on 11/22/2013 4:34:59 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: madprof98

Martin Luther King, Jr., and JFK couldn’t get that award today. They’d be condemned for being “too right wing”.


16 posted on 11/22/2013 5:41:45 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: Bratch

Better to be part of a living minority of Christian than a dying minority of heterosexually sick liberals.


17 posted on 11/22/2013 6:06:18 PM PST by Monorprise
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