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To: sickoflibs

The GOP House gave us the shutdown that was demanded of then by talk radio and lo and behold, Obamacare stayed funded during the shutdown anyway.
So a major fail.


No, the major fail was and is the tip toe GOPe strategy. Ryan surrendering on spending is just more of it. The GOP establishment has refused to engage the Democrats on any issues of substance. It’s too hard, they Dems have the media, etc., etc. It’s been one surrender party after another since Obama got in the WH.

Now the question is: will it be the Dem overreach on obamacare that gifts the GOP the Senate. One thing we know for certain is that any victory in 2014 won’t be due to beltway GOP strategizing. Because there is no GOPe strategy other than wait for the next election.


43 posted on 11/20/2013 1:08:10 PM PST by lodi90
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To: lodi90
RE :”Now the question is: will it be the Dem overreach on obamacare that gifts the GOP the Senate. One thing we know for certain is that any victory in 2014 won’t be due to beltway GOP strategizing. Because there is no GOPe strategy other than wait for the next election.”

The shutdown strategy was no strategy because everyone even those mounting it expected it to fail at its stated goal : defunding Obamacare
. Everyone knew the ending, Bohner going to Pelosi for votes for a Senate CR. This was a certainly from before the start.

And Obamacare was exempt from shutdown.

It was just a drawn out loyalty test that kept Obamcare off the news and united Dems till it was over.

44 posted on 11/20/2013 1:20:41 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: lodi90
RE :”One thing we know for certain is that any victory in 2014 won’t be due to beltway GOP strategizing.”

What was easy about 2010 win was GOP was completely out of power so they could all oppose everything without risk to any of them.

It was automatic

Here's one ;"When the Dems are killing themselves dont draw attention away from that to yourself"

45 posted on 11/20/2013 1:28:23 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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