Art. V ping.
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Proposal:
There are two ways to propose an amendment to the Constitution.
Article V gives Congress and an Amendments Convention exactly the same power to propose amendments, no more and no less.
Disposal:
Once Congress, or an Amendments Convention, proposes amendments, Congress must decide whether the states will ratify by the:
The State Ratifying Convention Method has only been used twice: once to ratify the Constitution, and once to ratify the 21st Amendment repealing Prohibition.
Ratification:
Depending upon which ratification method is chosen by Congress, either the state legislatures vote up-or-down on the proposed amendment, or the voters elect a state ratifying convention to vote up-or-down. If three-quarters of the states vote to ratify, the amendment becomes part of the Constitution.
I have two reference works for those reading this thread.
The first is from the American Legislative Exchange Council, a conservative pro-business group. This document has been sent to every state legislator in the country.
Proposing Constitutional Amendments by a Convention of the States: A Handbook for State Lawmakers
The second is a 1973 report from the American Bar Association attempting to identify gray areas in the amendatory process to include an Amendments Convention. It represents the view of the ruling class of 40 years ago. While I don't like some of their conclusions, they have laid out the precedents that may justify those conclusions. What I respect is the comprehensive job they did in locating all the gray areas. They went so far as to identify a gray area that didn't pop up until the Equal Rights Amendment crashed and burned a decade later. Even if you find yourself in disagreement with their vision, it's worth reading to see how the ruling class will try to dominate an Amendments Convention.
Report of the ABA Special Constitutional Convention Study Committee
How about an amendment to the effect that O’Garbage and everybody who ever accepted a job from him must immediately commit seppuku?
But you can't codify vigilance. Nothing can replace the will of the American people to remove politicians for their mischief. In the end, that is the only language the politicians understand. The on-going will of the American People is the only long-term solution for keeping government in check.
Is Mark aware of Long’s efforts?
December 7th was also the day when Delaware became the first state to ratify the Constitution. If California fails to attend, that would probably be a good thing.
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There is nothing wrong with the constitution and amending it could go places you’d rather not want to consider.
Let’s just follow and enforce the damn thing instead of trying to interpret the finer nuances of what we think it should mean and we will be fine.
Convention of States Project ping.
Is this guy a part of that groups effort you were talking about last week???
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Twenty six states went for Obama in 2012. What are the chances of most of those calling for the convention, much less ratifying anything that comes out of it?
I would like to see Washington decentralized with senators and congressmen operating from offices located in their jurisdictions and conducting legislative business through teleconferences.
Although I would support repealing the Progressive Movement 16th and 17th Amendments, there is nothing wrong with the Constitution per se.
The real problem with the “Constitution” is low information voters who don’t understand that the Founding States made the Constitution to limit (cripple) the federal government’s powers. And the remedy to restoring the constitutional republic is to get citizens up to speed on the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers. When that happens voters will be less likely to be tricked into voting for corrupt federal politicians who promise constitutonally indefensible federal spending programs to win votes.
But patriots are going to have to get citizens up to speed without the help of the media, including Obama guard dog Fx News, because the corrupt media is protecting the unconstitutonally big federal government.
Note that if patriots can organize to elect 2/3 conservative majority control of both Houses of Congress in the 2014 elections then the Obama tyranny will effectively be water under the bridge. This is because Congress will have the constitutional authority, under Clause 2 of Section 7 of Article I, to override presidential vetoes. In other words, Congress will be able to repeal unconstitutional Obamacare, for example, without Obama’s signature.
Congress will also be able to impeach federal government “leaders” who are not upholding their oaths to protect and defend the Constitution, particularly when it comes to respecting the federal government’s limited powers.
You would need 34 states. Which ones? My state is lib statist central (CA).