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To: Kaslin
The amendatory process under Article V consists of three steps: Proposal, Disposal, and Ratification.

Proposal:

There are two ways to propose an amendment to the Constitution.

Article V gives Congress and an Amendments Convention exactly the same power to propose amendments, no more and no less.

Disposal:

Once Congress, or an Amendments Convention, proposes amendments, Congress must decide whether the states will ratify by the:

The State Ratifying Convention Method has only been used twice: once to ratify the Constitution, and once to ratify the 21st Amendment repealing Prohibition.

Ratification:

Depending upon which ratification method is chosen by Congress, either the state legislatures vote up-or-down on the proposed amendment, or the voters elect a state ratifying convention to vote up-or-down. If three-quarters of the states vote to ratify, the amendment becomes part of the Constitution.

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I have two reference works for those reading this thread.

The first is from the American Legislative Exchange Council, a conservative pro-business group. This document has been sent to every state legislator in the country.

Proposing Constitutional Amendments by a Convention of the States: A Handbook for State Lawmakers

The second is a 1973 report from the American Bar Association attempting to identify gray areas in the amendatory process to include an Amendments Convention. It represents the view of the ruling class of 40 years ago. While I don't like some of their conclusions, they have laid out the precedents that may justify those conclusions. What I respect is the comprehensive job they did in locating all the gray areas. They went so far as to identify a gray area that didn't pop up until the Equal Rights Amendment crashed and burned a decade later. Even if you find yourself in disagreement with their vision, it's worth reading to see how the ruling class will try to dominate an Amendments Convention.

Report of the ABA Special Constitutional Convention Study Committee

4 posted on 11/19/2013 8:53:54 AM PST by Publius
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To: Publius

“It represents the view of the ruling class of 40 years ago.”

That’s another amendment: every change made in the last 40 years is null and void.

That includes every change in everything.


6 posted on 11/19/2013 8:59:30 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Publius
Publius: I am curious, do you have authority for the proposition that it is the voters of a state who would elect a state ratifying convention? Why could not the state legislatures vote delegates to such a ratifying convention? Would it depend on the state constitutions, instructions of Congress, or a court order based on one man one vote?

Who gets to decide these issues, the courts, the Congress, the state legislatures?

I know if I ask you I am likely to get an informed answer.


16 posted on 11/19/2013 9:17:50 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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