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Four new Iranian conditions block nuclear accord in Geneva.Putin calls Rouhani,Lavrov attacks Israel
Debka ^ | November 19, 2013, 9:57 AM (IDT)

Posted on 11/19/2013 7:08:07 AM PST by Dave346

The US and Russian presidents after bringing all their weight to bear on Tehran have failed to gain an inch toward a possible deal at the resumed nuclear talks in Geneva Wednesday Nov. 20, after being blocked by hardliners at the Iranian end. Tuesday, Kayhan, the mouthpiece of supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and the Revolutionary Guards, ran an article telling Foreign Minister Javad Zarif he should not go to Geneva at all.

Debkafile’s Iranian sources reveal the red lines with which the Iranian delegation to the talks has been armed for accepting an interim deal with the six powers on their nuclear program:

1) Iran will not shut down its underground enrichment plant at Fordo.

2) Work on building the Arak heavy water reactor will not be halted.

3) Iran will not allow the export of a single gram of its enriched uranium from the country.

4) Iran will not sign the Additional Protocol of the Non-Proliferation Treaty which expands international supervision of its nuclear program and permits snap inspections.

That the radicals are calling the shots in Tehran was obvious to every Iranian from the large blow-ups of the intransigent ex-president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad adorning Tehran newspapers in the last couple of days. President Hassan Rouhani may be elected president, but his campaign of smiles to the West has been superseded by the radical nuclear line espoused by the man he defeated at the polls. Ahmadinejad is riding high again in Tehran.

Zarif has admitted that his life may be forfeit if he dares make concessions to the West. Still, he is likely to take his seat at the resumed Geneva conference Wednesday, even though the four tough directives tie him hand and foot. Therefore, unless Tehran is suddenly persuaded to moderate its position, this conference has nowhere to go.

Given the political balance in Tehran – which Debkafile began covering in exclusive reports Monday – it is hard to see a deal coming out of Geneva, unless President Barack Obama accepts the four Iranian noes and gives the radical rulers of the Islamic Republic a major success.

US Secretary of State John Kerry therefore sees no point in visiting Israel Friday as he planned. It might be a bit much for him to turn up empty-handed insofar as a nuclear deal with Iran is concerned, and also watch his second major effort, the peace track with the Palestinians, floundering between flops.

Debkafile note the strange paradox of two leaders, Ayatollah Khamenei and Prime Minister Netanyahu, who are implacable adversaries in all else, maneuvering with all their might for the same object of taking the wind out of the sails of a potential nuclear deal between the six powers and Iran.

Khamenei is confident he can bring President Obama to heel and force him to live with key elements of Iran’s nuclear bomb program. Israel wants that program brought a lot closer to its dismantlement by tougher sanctions. He is seconded in this demand by France in public statements by its president Francois Hollande, and Saudi Arabia, which prefers not to admit to supporting the Israeli campaign.

Early Tuesday, the heavyweights of Washington and Moscow went into action for a last-ditch bid to tip the scales back in favor of the deal.

President Obama appealed in person to US senators to postpone legislation for tougher sanctions against Iran. They are expected to agree to put off the bipartisan initiative until next month.

President Putin was on the phone to Rouhani, after which the Kremlin announced, “There is a real chance for a nuclear deal.”

Kerry and Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov talked by phone and then, each according to his style, berated Netanyahu.

The US Secretary said: “I have great respect for Netanyahu’s concerns about his country.” He has “every right” to state his opposition to a potential nuclear deal with Iran and defend what “he perceives” is in Israel’s interests. But, he also assured “Netanyahu, ordinary Israelis and pro-Israel members of Congress who are opposed to the proposed agreement” that "Nothing that we are doing here, in my judgment, will put Israel at any additional risk. In fact, let me make this clear, we believe it reduces risk."

Without mentioning Israel or Netanyahu, Lavrov rejected their assessment that the deal on the table would leave Iran with the capacity to assemble a nuclear weapon within 26 days as “far from reality.” He then criticized those who cast doubt on the intelligence and integrity of the parties conducting negotiations with Iran.

This rebuff came shortly before Netanyahu was due to land in Moscow Wednesday, Nov. 20, for talks with the Russian president and may have been intended to set a stiff tone for those talks.

The contest between the White House and Kremlin over who can beat the Israeli prime minister more effectively may be convenient for venting their frustration over the Iranian leader’s ability to elude any direct attempts to force him into line, or even reach him. They find themselves beating their heads against a blank wall while the radical front, which rejects any reasonable nuclear deal with the West, gains the upper hand in Tehran.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bomb; nuclear; terror; war

1 posted on 11/19/2013 7:08:08 AM PST by Dave346
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To: Dave346
So with no deal the sanctions stay but Iran can go full steam ahead until either they get the bomb or get bombed.

I thought they would cobble something to get through the next few months, tying Israel's hands.

2 posted on 11/19/2013 7:15:04 AM PST by AU72
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To: Dave346

The president, of course - utterly inept and unschooled in foreign affairs, and a blockhead to boot - is being played by everyone with an iron in the fire regarding the Middle East.

And so they blab and blab and blab, while Iran inches closer and closer to nukes they have sworn to use on Israel.

It’s an incredibly dangerous situation, but Obama is too busy creating f***ed up web sites, making excuses, and playing golf to care.


3 posted on 11/19/2013 7:15:10 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Dave346
Why are we so hot for a deal?

Who cares if the Iranians are suffering under the sanctions, its their own fault and they refuse to budge one inch.

Obama desparately wants something to take Obamacare, oops I mean ACA, off the front page. And he's willing to sacrifice Israel toward that end.

In the meantime, Iran is supporting Assad w/ the benevolent Russians acting as wink/wink/nod/nod referees.

Kerry is in so far over his freakin' head he needs the French to pull him out. Nothing says pathetic quite like that.

4 posted on 11/19/2013 7:19:06 AM PST by Pietro
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To: Jack Hammer
"The president, of course - utterly inept and unschooled in foreign affairs, and a blockhead to boot - is being played by everyone with an iron in the fire regarding the Middle East."

Inept or Machiavellian? Obama is trying to spread the Islamic bomb, chaos and support for the most radical Muslims while further weakening the US IMO.

5 posted on 11/19/2013 7:22:49 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Jack Hammer

This would be so much easier if Israel just nuked Iran’s enrichment facility and called it an Iranian nuclear accident. Then Obama goes in front of the UN and explains why third world countries should not pursue this type of weaponry and demands a summit.

Hahaha.....sometimes I crack myself up.


6 posted on 11/19/2013 7:23:12 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("Senator Cruz basically made the Democrats fight for a whole bunch of things that they already had.")
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To: Pietro
Who cares if the Iranians are suffering under the sanctions, its their own fault and they refuse to budge one inch.

Well obviously, Valerie Jarrett, the Iranian mole in the White House, cares very much. And she's the one calling the shots in this Administration, not her useful puppet Barack Obama.


7 posted on 11/19/2013 7:26:59 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: Truth29

I don’t know whether or not it’s intentional, but the president couldn’t be damaging the US much more than he has done even if it were all deliberate.


8 posted on 11/19/2013 7:27:20 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: AU72

That’s what Obama wanted, he surrendered to the Iranian position but the French got in the way.

At any rate, I’m convinced Netanyahu will launch war when the clock runs out, regardless of any talks or deals that Israel is not a party to.

And that clock doesn’t have much time left now.......


9 posted on 11/19/2013 7:27:27 AM PST by Dave346
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To: Dave346

Obama is so desperate to point to something he can paint as an accomplishment that he’ll sign off on anything. Israel is on her own.


10 posted on 11/19/2013 7:35:15 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Dave346

They’re running out the clock, any damned fool can see it.

THEY need to be given a drop-dead date by which they sign an accord that ACTUALLY prevents them from building nukes (as opposed to SAYING such with no enforcement).

Of course, this requires that we have an actual patriot with some testosterone coursing through his bloodstream to be the head of household at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, so I guess we’re S.O.L.

Bibi and the IDF had better be putting the final touches on their plans, because they’re the only ones who are willing and able to do anything about this.


11 posted on 11/19/2013 10:03:32 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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12 posted on 11/19/2013 8:14:16 PM PST by SJackson (if you want to test a manÂ’s character, give him power A Lincoln)
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To: Dave346

IMO these “talks”, depending upon where one is in the process of revelation prove the point about the Democrats, the Leftists that they are.

They are idiots.

One doesn’t talk to an enemy that has stated they want to kill you, and has proven their point by their actions of killing, maiming, destruction, and aggression time, and time again over the past thirty-five years, or so since they declared war on the West, primarily the United States, and Israel, and took hostages for about a year.

Talk is useless. One kills them back.


13 posted on 11/20/2013 7:23:50 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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