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The Fracking Fight Goes Way Left
Townhall.com ^ | November 17, 2013 | Marita Noon

Posted on 11/17/2013 10:59:43 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

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Do you think if they brought back Elvis or the Beatles that these teeny-bopper girls would find another outlet for their hysteria?

I guess the “new” has worn off the Obama infatuation, fainting spells, etc. of a few years back.


21 posted on 11/17/2013 1:33:31 PM PST by BwanaNdege (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. J.F. Kennedy)
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To: Jim from C-Town

You are right about that- I work for one of the oldest welding supply companies in the country (ironically, headquartered in Fort Collins), and our sales are going gangbusters wherever there is oilfield activity (which is a lot of Texas!).


22 posted on 11/17/2013 1:35:26 PM PST by TexasBarak (I aim to misbehave!)
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To: supercat
A blend of 90% gasoline and 10% ethanol has more than 95% as much energy as pure gasoline,

Enough said. Why do I have to suffer for the few corn growers? One percent is too much. What dog do you have in this fight?

23 posted on 11/17/2013 2:56:43 PM PST by hadaclueonce (dont worry about Mexico, put the fence around kalifornia.)
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To: Kaslin

Its like Obamacare: OK, go ahead!

OK so shut the natural gas supply off to those towns and comply with their wishes. The Japanese want LNG exports from the US, we can sell natural gas from fracking to them.

The political risk is simply too high to invest in any Colorado hydrocarbon resource play requiring fracking. Energy companies are already diverting capital to other geographical areas, if they have a choice in their portfolios. The worst situation is to discover a big field and be banned from developing it.


24 posted on 11/17/2013 2:56:43 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: seowulf
I would suspect that some of the loss in mileage is because the engine is not optimized to the blend

Tell that liberal BS to my fuel lines.

25 posted on 11/17/2013 2:58:19 PM PST by hadaclueonce (dont worry about Mexico, put the fence around kalifornia.)
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To: supercat

Certainly it shouldn’t be difficult to have some test subjects in a double-blind test and measure illumination when the sun is out compared to the brightness at night.


26 posted on 11/17/2013 3:04:44 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ("The government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: hadaclueonce

If my truck had an alcohol engine in it, alcohol would probably work fine.

My truck, however, has a gasoline engine, probably like yours.


27 posted on 11/17/2013 3:39:11 PM PST by seowulf (Cogito cogito, ergo cogito sum. Cogito.---Ambrose Bierce)
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To: seowulf
If my truck had an alcohol engine in it, alcohol would probably work fine

Just watch, some so called conservative "corn stalk sniffer" will come to the defense of burning food for fuel.

28 posted on 11/17/2013 5:03:14 PM PST by hadaclueonce (dont worry about Mexico, put the fence around kalifornia.)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Thomas Edison was a proponent of DC (direct current) electrical power. He tried to prove AC was bad by also being in favor of the first execution by electric chair using the “dangerous” AC power. The prisoner survived several jolts to “fry” him before he died.


29 posted on 11/17/2013 8:11:40 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Mora and San Miguel Counties are two basket cases - very little commercial activity; supported by tax money from the rest of the state. Their opposition equals to the level of their education; very much influenced by enviro-nutters from Santa Fe who spread the fallacy that every fossil fuel is bad. Funny thing is, most of them heat their homes with wood which pollutes far more than natural gas or oil fired boilers.


30 posted on 11/17/2013 9:53:32 PM PST by CedarDave
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To: Kaslin; LegendHasIt; leapfrog0202; Santa Fe_Conservative; DesertDreamer; OneWingedShark; ...

NM list PING!


31 posted on 11/18/2013 7:37:34 AM PST by CedarDave
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Ping.


32 posted on 11/18/2013 9:26:59 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: supercat

Most cars today either don’t have compression ratios that require higher octane levels, or their fuel injection systems allow them to burn lower octane levels with higher compression. In either case, higher octane accomplishes nothing. Nothing is gained by putting premium gas into a car that runs fine on regular. It’s a waste of money.

A better way to look at octane is to think in terms of smoothness and consistency of burn. A high compression engine needs a consistent burn in the combustion chamber, or bad things start to happen.

If you look at an energy equivalence chart you would see that a gallon of gasoline has more energy than a gallon of ethanol. You need 1.5 gallons of alcohol to equal one gallon of gas. But a little alcohol in the gas increases the octane level by making it burn more consistently, allowing a high compression engine to burn more efficiently. Again, with most engines on the road today, nothing is gained by the octane increase.

High mixtures of ethanol in gas are counter productive, providing less energy and lower gas mileage. Ethanol is also more corrosive than gasoline, which is why I avoid it in my two cycle chain saws. In situations where gas sits for any length of time, the ethanol will separate from the gas creating problems for farm equipment, my log splitter and so on. I use a marine stabilizer in my boat to avoid problems.


33 posted on 11/18/2013 10:22:21 AM PST by pallis
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To: Kaslin

Meanwhile on Thursday Chickenpooper will take a trip to the Highway 34, US highway not state, and take personal credit for fixing the road because “you did not do that”


34 posted on 11/18/2013 4:17:03 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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