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To: stanne

I think to some extent the French like to take an opposition stance to the US.

I can still remember how a decade ago the French stabbed Bush in the back over Iraq. But it’s easy when the US plays a leading role in defending Western values for the Europeans to call us cowboys and preen arrogantly about peace in our time.

When the US abdicates that leadership role and elects a radical Islamist to the White House not once but twice, the Europeans are finally forced to stand up for their own interests. There was a big leadership void, and if it wasn’t the French it could’ve just as easily been the British or Germans.


6 posted on 11/17/2013 8:14:45 AM PST by Dave346
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To: Dave346

The French are individual thinkers and they’ll take an opposing side when their interests are in mind. I guess I admire that.

The Germans HATED Bush. the Germans on the street, that is. I would ask them, ‘what do you care? he’s not your president?’.

There’s just such a different standard for the French.


7 posted on 11/17/2013 8:24:04 AM PST by stanne
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lots of people had doubts about Iraq. About Afghanistan, no one had doubts

In hindsight, it was better to keep a secular evil dictator like Saddam in charge rather than a govt that cuddles up to Iran and which has thousands of people killed a year in a low-key civil war

After afghanistan, Pakistan should have been next

11 posted on 11/17/2013 8:47:34 AM PST by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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