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MN: 75 YR OLD MAN TRICKS 16 YR OLD INTRUDER
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Posted on 11/17/2013 6:50:59 AM PST by nodakkid

In Minnesota a 16 year old intruder intent on geting cash and drugs from 75 year old man wasn't as smart as the "old man". A 75-year-old Sandstone man pretended to be blind and hard of hearing to fool an armed intruder into lowering his gun, court papers say. The intruder ended up dead and another suspect is facing prison time.

Read more at http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/418644/group/homepage/

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: banglist; guns; invasion; minn
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To: US_MilitaryRules; Conspiracy Guy
Well, he wasn't Amish - I had a 99.9% chance of being correct, and was correct, in that regard. I had a 65% chance of being right in the second.

At any rate, one piece of trash removed and another en route to lock up.

The overall point is we need to start acknowledging WHO exactly is committing these crimes, and exactly WHO we, and our families, need to be watchful for. Trash like this is a prime example. The Amish are not.

References to the "Amish" were funny the first 5000 times. Now, not so much. I don't walk down the street with a wary eye over my shoulder to see if Jedidiah is going to sucker punch me while playing "the knockout game."

I don't worry about Ezekiel holding up a a liquor store with a semi-automatic, high capacity assault beard - or doing a drive-by shooting at full gallop with black powder musket.

I do worry about the thug culture, meth addicted, crack head wanna be gangbangers - black, white, and latino doing those things. The Amish, not so much.

And, if we can't acknowledge and plainly state it is the white trash, the feral black, and the illegal hispanic invaders that are attacking decent people - then we've already lost.

41 posted on 11/17/2013 9:53:05 AM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: Scoutmaster; Albion Wilde

Barack Whosayne Obama.


42 posted on 11/17/2013 9:59:18 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (What happened to my tagline??)
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To: Scoutmaster

Awwww...you just made that up. :-)


43 posted on 11/17/2013 9:59:36 AM PST by Conservative4Ever (A pox on the House of Apple and the ios7 horse they rode in on.)
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To: Conservative4Ever
Did that strike too close to home, Conservative Wayne 4Ever?

:-)

44 posted on 11/17/2013 10:17:27 AM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: GeronL
Promising polka career?

You mean it was THAT Gypsy Wayne Watts?

45 posted on 11/17/2013 10:20:22 AM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: nodakkid

One of those feel good stories!!! One less feral yoof only him momma will miss him.


46 posted on 11/17/2013 10:22:05 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Scoutmaster
Let's see. Um. Um. Um. Barack Wayne Obama. Nope. Doesn't have the right meter for school children to chant it.

Got to put the "uh!" in there: baRAK uhWAYne oBOMuh...

47 posted on 11/17/2013 10:22:14 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: Repeat Offender

We run in different circles. When a lot of us on FR say it must be the Amish we are mocking the lack of description of the perps in these stories by the MSM. We are also likely to suggest that a crazed shooter was surely a Tea Party member. Sometimes we post sarcasm tags other times we don’t. Sorry to be a little esoteric.


48 posted on 11/17/2013 10:33:45 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (On the evening of 10/16/13, the ailing republican party breathed its last breath.)
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To: Scoutmaster

Needs to be Barack Dewayne Obama um, um, um.


49 posted on 11/17/2013 10:37:06 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (On the evening of 10/16/13, the ailing republican party breathed its last breath.)
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To: nodakkid

Old age and cunning will defeat youth and ignorance every time.


50 posted on 11/17/2013 11:01:29 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Repeat Offender

Indeed.

Excellent post.


51 posted on 11/17/2013 11:02:53 AM PST by Hulka
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To: catnipman

That’s the Wayne Lee Ray syndrome.


52 posted on 11/17/2013 11:09:08 AM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
I'm well familiar with the Amish meme.....it is tired and old and not the truth.

The TEA Party reference - bears truth because the liberal media searches out and tries to make it so - in nearly the same sense that every firearm is "assault"whatever, high powered, high capacity and a derivative of an M16. It is one thing to say "Tea Party member" or "right-wing nutjob" will probably take the blame and point out the media's bias - it is entirely different when nearly every single thread about black on black or black on white crime is chalked up as another crime by "the Amish."

It is maddening to see so many people refer to these criminals as "Amish" instead of acknowledging who they really are. It is maddening to hear people talk about "tragic canoe/boating accidents" in respect to gun ownership. Why? Why do people feel the need to do this?

Why do we feel the need to pretend to be something we're not? How can we say that conservatives are the group of ideas when we won't acknowledge or stand up for them? How can we say the MSM and liberals lie and we hold the truth when we won't express it?

I challenge you to find a thread, with more than 20 posts, on FR that references violent criminal activity where there isn't at least one (usually more) references to "the Amish." I'd wager you would find the majority do.

I challenge you to find a thread of similar length regarding firearms where a reference to a "tragic boating accident" isn't referenced.

If I was a lurker visiting this site, I'd probably think that FReepers were ashamed they owned guns, or willfully disarmed.

I'd probably think that maybe the media was right since the majority of our discussions claim violence is committed by the Amish - and whenever anyone points out, no there is a strong likelihood a black male between the ages of 16 and 25 committed that crime there is someone to snipe, acting like maybe it was the Amish and you're racist for thinking otherwise.

I am a gun owner. I have more guns than I can recall. I have several (SEVERAL) thousand rounds of ammunition. I don't leave the house without a gun. I didn't lose them in a boating accident. I will do my damndest to shoot anyone that comes to take them.

I'm not fearful of young kids with harmless youthful exuberance - aka "yutes". I'm not afraid of the Amish. Or generic average height males, of average build, that wear dark clothing.

When I'm in public: I keep a close watch on younger whites that dress like hoodlum trash. I keep a close watch on young black males dressed like gangbangers. I keep close watch on latinos dressed like gangbangers. Not the Amish.

Pointing out the lack of description in an MSM story is one thing. Our imitating and being afraid to provide truthful description makes us no better than they are. It was funny the first few times. Now, it is just sad. Because if we refuse to point it out then how are we going to tell others what the truth is and show them the truth in our ideas?

We as conservatives get accused of being racist. We allow the story and the descriptions to buried, after all - it's the Amish that did it.

Of course we need "common sense gun laws." What does it matter if restrictions are put on guns? You don't have any anyway because you lost all yours. And, if you didn't and guns weren't so bad, you wouldn't have to hide behind your cute little sayings like that "tragic canoe incident." You'd be able to say you have guns.

To put all this another way: Suppose you were having an adult conversation with your 16 year son/daughter that just got their drivers license. They are now receiving a bit of independence and able to travel by themselves further from you than before, maybe to built up areas. And you wanted them to be aware of their surroundings and protected.

Would you tell them to look out for the Amish? Would you say 'those white guys, in blue shirts, suspenders, and dark pants, with long beards are dangerous? Would you tell them to be wary of those people because they may hit you in the back of the head as some sort of "game?" I would hope not.

Lastly, please do not take my post personally as an attack against you. As that I'm stringing you up and flaming you. But overall, it is rather disheartening that so many would rather jokingly cast off who it is that is attacking people than than to acknowledge it. Above all, I do apologize if it seems I am personally attacking you, as this is not my intent.

53 posted on 11/17/2013 11:11:58 AM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: Repeat Offender

No. You do not have the power to offend me. You automatically assumed the perp was black without reading the article. So don’t get all high and mighty about TRUTH. You are no threat to me since you seem to be emotional and judgemental. No one appointed you a moral leader of conservative thought. I should have been a little more truthful with my post to you. In all honesty, I find you annoying. But you do have a right to be annoying.


54 posted on 11/17/2013 11:19:01 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (On the evening of 10/16/13, the ailing republican party breathed its last breath.)
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To: Cicero

http://www.newsoftheweird.com/wayne.html


55 posted on 11/17/2013 11:30:07 AM PST by ErnBatavia (The 0baMao Experiment: Abject Failure)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
I did assume the perp was black; I also stated if "I had to guess," since the article did not mention a description of either perp. As you yourself mentioned the article didn't mention race or description of either perp - that's what my guess was based on. I was wrong. I admitted that.

You wrongly supposed that I didn't read the article before posting.

I never claimed to be the moral leader of conservative thought. I wasn't posting out of emotion, or judgement of you - and even posted that I WASN'T attacking (ie judging you).

I was trying to have a rational adult conversation with you and stated my opinion that glossing over facts and blaming the Amish doesn't help anything as in my opinion is tacit approval, whether intended or unintended.

Where I will be judgmental is this - it is apparently too much to discuss anything of substance and easier to blame the Amish or attack another poster of being a 'self appointed moral judge' vice a back-and-forth regarding the actual issues of media bias, hiding the identity of violent criminals, infringement of gun ownership, and the racist targeting of white and/or Christian America.

It is apparently too much to discuss why it is easier for even conservatives to identify perpetrators of violent crime. As I even stated my post was directed TO you (as in for discussion) and not AT you (as in an emotional or judgmental attack).

I understand you were kidding about and making a joke - I don't fault you for that. My posts were more of a question to you as to WHY the meme seemed to have more traction than statement of fact, or supposition based on trends and I expressed my frustration with such...... I really did want your opinion on that topic.

56 posted on 11/17/2013 11:42:52 AM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: Repeat Offender

Repeat as in repetitious is a great first name for your Freeper Name. I understood your point the first time and it is boring and self righteous. So it is not worth repeating. I will not read it again. I like your style example “Not saying you’re (fill in the blank) I’m saying you act (fill in the blank). If I want to have an adult conversation, I’ll find an adult to converse with.


57 posted on 11/17/2013 1:41:11 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (On the evening of 10/16/13, the ailing republican party breathed its last breath.)
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To: Scoutmaster

I thought you were just kidding but you are definitely
on to something. I read that back in the mobster days
(20’s-30’s) that they had a certain profile of facial
features that identified potential criminals but that was
a wash. This Wayne thing seems to have clout.


58 posted on 11/17/2013 2:14:08 PM PST by Slambat
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To: nodakkid

That old saying comes to mind: never pick a fight with an old guy. He’ll be too tired to play around and will just kill you.


59 posted on 11/17/2013 2:52:05 PM PST by tanuki (Left-wing Revolution: show biz for boring people.)
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To: xrmusn
Gypsies,tramps, and dead thieves...
60 posted on 11/18/2013 2:22:02 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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