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Christian organization cancels 'Duck Dynasty' event because Robertsons have wine deal
FOX News ^ | November 13, 2013 | Hollie McKay

Posted on 11/13/2013 9:17:01 AM PST by GIdget2004

Despite his devotion to dinner time prayers and Christian values, "Duck Dynasty" star Willie Robertson has been axed from speaking at a benefit in Bristol, Tenn. for the faith and bible-driven organization, Family Ministries.

Why?

Wine.

The famous family announced its latest business venture last week: Duck Commander Wines. In conjunction with the winemakers of Trinchero Family Estates in Napa, the Robertsons' own line of Red, Moscato and Chardonnay is slated to hit stores next month. According to the Ministries, Duck Commander Wines goes against the organization's core values.

"Our greatest responsibility is to the young people we serve. Therefore, we feel that in light of the recent news, to continue with this event would send mixed messages to the young people who go through our Adolescent Drug and Alcohol program," Derek Bell, director of development for Family Ministries stated. "Our message must be consistent. The lives of those children may well hang in the balance. We certainly apologize to the people who have already purchased tickets, and pray they understand our position."

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To: backwoods-engineer

For example, the Pharisees called Jesus an ``excessive drunk``,

33”For John the Baptist has come eating no bread and drinking no wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon!’ 34”The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Behold, a gluttonous man and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’ 35”Yet wisdom is vindicated by all her children.”

Luke 7:34

Idou! anthropos phagos kai oinopotas

Look! The man given to eating and wine drinker


41 posted on 11/13/2013 10:02:56 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (`)
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To: Sybeck1
It was fermented wine and Christ used parables about fermented wine in relation to wine skins as well. Wine is a means to make a safe drink in places where water may not be the purest. You'll also notice in the parable the man sampling the wine Jesus had made said they had saved the best wine for last. Usually it was the other way around. The Host served expensive {aged} wine when guest taste buds were fresh and as they drank the host often replaced it with cheaper {newer} wine and wine of lower grade and taste. Christ did not condemn wine drinking or wine making. He condemned the abuse called drunkenness.
42 posted on 11/13/2013 10:03:09 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: GIdget2004

Hey Baptist Christians.....Jesus LOVED wine, for Pete’s sake....and DANCING isn’t a sin either.


43 posted on 11/13/2013 10:04:14 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ransomed

His explanation of that verse is that Jesus turned the wine into grape juice and they were too drunk to know the difference.

His church is also big on KJV only...as in, every other translation is a tool of da debbil.


44 posted on 11/13/2013 10:04:33 AM PST by Anton.Rutter
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To: Ransomed

Sorry...turned WATER into grape juice...

Swear I haven`t been drinking any wine-


45 posted on 11/13/2013 10:06:26 AM PST by Anton.Rutter
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To: haffast

haffast, You hit it out of the park here.

Drinking alcohol is NOT a sin.

Yes, Jesus DID turn water into WINE.
(Somebody PLEASE tell me WHAT alternative did they have in those days - Gatorade? Pepsi?)

Today, we have LOTS of alternatives to alcohol.

Some of you have said you don’t understand Christians who are teetolers.. I don’t understand “Christians” who dabble with alcohol to put their minds to sleep. Where is the wisdom of that?

Look at the pic and article that haffast posted here...

What is the ONE factor, which removed from the situation, would have prevented this?

A: Alcohol.

I’m surprised at how many people CAN’T live without it.


46 posted on 11/13/2013 10:07:16 AM PST by joethedrummer
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To: Jane Long

They do, but almost every Church of Christ member I know is a heavy drinker. LOL


47 posted on 11/13/2013 10:07:30 AM PST by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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To: Ann Archy
It's not?

Dang. Just dang..........

48 posted on 11/13/2013 10:08:09 AM PST by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: GIdget2004

While I respect them sticking to their beliefs. There is a perhaps, a line that is crossed when you start merchandising it.

That said, no where does the Bible say you can’t own a vineyard.

I Timothy 5:23 “Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach’s sake and thine often infirmities.”


49 posted on 11/13/2013 10:12:26 AM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: GIdget2004

I’ll never understand the Legalism in so many churches surrounding consumption of alcohol; but the same people will gorge themselves fatter n’ a tick at a Sunday fellowship buffet and gossip about one another.


50 posted on 11/13/2013 10:13:40 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("Scheming demons dressed in kingly guise, beating down the multitudes and scoffing at the wise.")
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To: GIdget2004
"Our greatest responsibility is to the young people we serve. Therefore, we feel that in light of the recent news, to continue with this event would send mixed messages to the young people who go through our Adolescent Drug and Alcohol program," Derek Bell, director of development for Family Ministries stated...

Are the Duck Dynasty people advocating that adolescents drink it?

51 posted on 11/13/2013 10:15:45 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: GIdget2004
The larger discussion for us might be the example here of the Founders' intent that every individual in America would possess Constitutional rights to freedom, as long as by exercising it they do not "harm" another's equal rights.

We write much on this web site about America's founding principle of freedom of religion and the free exercise thereof.

Not every individual or group interprets its "exercise" of that precious right in the same manner as other individuals or groups.

Is that not what is great about America?

Yesterday's news focused on a story about a photography team who, because of their religious beliefs, have been tried and convicted by the "state" for exercising their own rights of conscience based on those beliefs?

Thomas Jefferson (a signer of the Declaration and a U. S. President) repeatedly praised America’s protections for the rights of conscience, as evidenced by the following statements:

"No provision in our Constitution ought to be dearer to man than that which protects the rights of conscience."

"[O]ur rulers can have no authority over such natural rights only as we have submitted to them. The rights of conscience we never submitted." "A right to take the side which every man’s conscience approves . . . is too precious a right – and too favorable to the preservation of liberty – not to be protected."

"It is inconsistent with the spirit of our laws and Constitution to force tender consciences."


52 posted on 11/13/2013 10:18:40 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: wonkowasright

My thoughts exactly.


53 posted on 11/13/2013 10:19:10 AM PST by bigfootbob
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To: GIdget2004

I support them 100%.


54 posted on 11/13/2013 10:19:40 AM PST by easternsky
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To: Sybeck1

And Jesus came and changed EVERYTHING!! Jesus said that all foods are OK.


55 posted on 11/13/2013 10:19:54 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: GIdget2004

They must not have ever heard of communion wine. Boneheads.


56 posted on 11/13/2013 10:20:33 AM PST by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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To: Sybeck1

And politics....just sayin’


57 posted on 11/13/2013 10:21:41 AM PST by bigfootbob
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To: Anton.Rutter

“His explanation of that verse is that Jesus turned the wine into grape juice and they were too drunk to know the difference.”

But the head waiter is the one that tasted it and comments about it being better than the wine at the beginning of the celebration, and I doubt if the head waiter was ripped out of his gourd.

That KJV only stuff is pretty weird, He Who Is Not To Be Named On The Religion Forum is one of those guys.

Freegards


58 posted on 11/13/2013 10:22:45 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: GIdget2004
I am a Duck Dynasty fan.....but it strikes me as a wrong chord for Willie to buy into this new deal with the winery....

...if you read Phil's (the father) book, he almost lost his family....Kay, Willie, Jase and Allen...because he was a heavy drinker....he actually threw them---the mom and boys... out of the house when those boys were young.

I would think, if anyone, Willie could understand how some church organizations have zero tolerance for wine, beer, etc.

I don't fault the church organization.....they are simply standing by their core principles....knowing full well they will be ridiculed....as many of you are doing here.

59 posted on 11/13/2013 10:26:00 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: bigfootbob

I guess your right, Slick Willie, Al Gore and the Huckster included.


60 posted on 11/13/2013 10:37:19 AM PST by Sybeck1 (Defunding does work!! Anyone remember fate of the border fence????)
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