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State perks set, now union to vote on Boeing 777X offer
The Daily Herald ^ | November 11, 2013 | Dan Catchpole and Jerry Cornfield, Herald Writers

Posted on 11/12/2013 5:09:09 PM PST by mdittmar

EVERETT -- A couple hundred Machinist union members held an unofficial rally Monday outside their union hall near Paine Field to protest a contract extension offer negotiated in secret by the Boeing Co. and the union's international leadership.The message: Boeing's promise to build the 777X in Everett, in exchange for significant changes in retirement and health benefits, among other things, will undercut the union and is a bluff by the Chicago-based company's leadership."They're trying to kill us. Period," said Wilson Ferguson, a delivery mechanic on the 737 line in Renton and president of Local A. "At the end of the day, all we have is solidarity."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 777x; aerospace; boeing; unions
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1 posted on 11/12/2013 5:09:09 PM PST by mdittmar
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“...at the end of the day, all we have is solidarity.”

No, at the end of the day is all you have is Obama’s backing as one of his favored constituencies. A powerful card, but not a righteous one.


2 posted on 11/12/2013 5:12:25 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: mdittmar

I would love to see Boeing build the new plane in South Carolina. My bet is that should they try to do that, His High Overlord Obama, and his tools in the National Labor Relations Board, would unconstitutionally “veto” the move.


3 posted on 11/12/2013 5:13:50 PM PST by House Atreides ( D)
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Boeing built Seattle, I doubt the Pot industry, rainy weather keeps it solvent if Boeing says “FU”


4 posted on 11/12/2013 5:13:54 PM PST by DAC21
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To: Pearls Before Swine

At the end of the day,they will have no job.


5 posted on 11/12/2013 5:14:26 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

Wroblewski sounded a lot different Monday than he did last Thursday, almost as if he’d gotten the word that Boeing is not bluffing.

We’ll know tomorrow but Boeing may well not be bluffing, they’ve already laid the groundwork for leaving WA.


6 posted on 11/12/2013 5:19:25 PM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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No, doofus. At the end of the day all you have is an unemployment check.


7 posted on 11/12/2013 5:24:52 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: DAC21

Sure hope the “iam” does the right thing and votes a big resounding NO. Then Boeing can say “well shucks, guess we’re movin’ south. Buh bye.”


8 posted on 11/12/2013 5:28:45 PM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: ought-six

These workers have always been overpaid and demanding.

I will hurt Washington for Boeing to leave, but these constant temper tantrums are really hard on a big company.


9 posted on 11/12/2013 5:28:55 PM PST by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: mdittmar
A little off topic. The new 777 is a replacement for the 747-400. Two engines and the same capacity.

Back on topic. I have a hard time choosing between Big Business in bed with the government, and unions in bed with the government.

10 posted on 11/12/2013 5:29:11 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: House Atreides

Then Boeing could sue in court delaying the whole thing. When the judge most likely rules in favor of the union Boeing will either cancel the project or send it overseas.


11 posted on 11/12/2013 5:29:33 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
the rest of the state just stagnates but not the Seattle area because they keep giving our taxes to fund huge wages and pensions and bonuses to the Boeing crowd....

this is pure communism....take from some groups to give to others....

at least we don't have a state income tax......yet...

12 posted on 11/12/2013 5:43:08 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: angry elephant

I won’t be surprised if the geniuses running the union do the same demented trick that Caterpillar workers did when they badmouthed until CAT pulled out of York, PA....And the workers at Harley-Davidson in York came within a froghair of doing a few years ago. I marvel at these people’s propensity for killing the proverbial golden egg laying goose.


13 posted on 11/12/2013 5:45:42 PM PST by Tucker39
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To: Moonman62

It’s tough,why is the Federal Government involved at all?


14 posted on 11/12/2013 5:49:34 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: ought-six

“full pay until the last day!” -Eastern Airlines labor slogan


15 posted on 11/12/2013 5:49:57 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Tucker39

Yeah, one union worker said on our local news a few minutes ago, “This is the worst contract we’ve ever been faced with,” or somesuch words.

Well, join the club, Bub, the whole country is living on less jobs, less or no healthcare, and on and on.

They just have a very “special” thought about themselves.


16 posted on 11/12/2013 5:52:47 PM PST by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: Tucker39

the same demented trick that Caterpillar workers did when they badmouthed until CAT pulled out of York”””

There are still people in South Bend, Indiana waiting for Studebaker to come back.....


17 posted on 11/12/2013 6:08:38 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: angry elephant

I’m so sick of the IAM acting like their overpaid existence is a birthright!!! Back when I had a machine shop - making exhaust duct plugs for 777s, the IAM decided to pull my work back in house. I went out to Renton and watched them operate...

The operators on the 6 spindle 250’ mills were sleeping at the controls. Back then - in the early 90’s - they were making almost $40/hr. The absolute LAST machinist I would ever hire would be one from the Lazy B.


18 posted on 11/12/2013 6:30:39 PM PST by datura (Proud Infidel)
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They are not very smart or skilled people and always want more.

Years ago I had some Boeing stock, as did many Washingtonians. Sold all mine a long time ago as I got
tired of seeing it fall every time these spoiled machinists made some new demands.


19 posted on 11/12/2013 6:43:45 PM PST by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: USNBandit
"full pay until the last day!" -Eastern Airlines labor slogan

I am nearly finished reading 'Rickenbacker'. That his beloved airline was killed by the very unions he hated had only one good aspect - it happened after his death.

What a great guy.

20 posted on 11/12/2013 9:27:45 PM PST by diogenes ghost
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