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Libertarian Robert Sarvis Drew Record High Votes in Virginia
Daily Beast ^ | November 8, 2013 | by Ben Jacobs

Posted on 11/08/2013 1:17:51 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee

For the guy who finished third in the Virginia governor’s race, Robert Sarvis had a pretty good night on Tuesday. Sarvis was the Libertarian candidate in the election who pulled in just over 6.5% of the vote. This wasn’t just a landmark achievement for a third party candidate in Virginia but in the entire American South.

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Based on the exit polls, the average Sarvis voter was a younger, well-educated, pro-choice white who did not identify with either political party. In particular, Sarvis did well in suburban Richmond and in the Shenandoah Valley. Sarvis’s weakest areas were in coal country in southwest Virginia, where the biracial software developer from Northern Virginia struggled to get much more than three percent of the vote.

The question, which was heavily debated before, during and after the election was where Sarvis pulled his supporters from and whether his campaign drew more votes away from Democratic governor-elect Terry McAuliffe or from the socially conservative Republican, Cuccinelli. Based on the crosstabs of a CNN exit poll, it appears that statewide, Sarvis voters leaned toward McAuliffe as their second choice. However there was a lot of regional variation. . .

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: cuccinelli; dailybeast; democratinlclothing; kencuccinelli; libertarians; newsweak; robertsarvis; sarvis; terrymcauliffe; terrymcawful; thirdparty; va2013; virginia; virginiaelection
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To: elkfersupper
That’s crap and you know it.

In this case it was true.

41 posted on 11/08/2013 1:43:15 PM PST by verga (We used to be the land of the free. Now weÂ’re just the land of the freebie.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

If Sarvis was “pro-choice” so-called, is that just an indicator that voters would have gone to the Party of Death’s candidate in his absence?


42 posted on 11/08/2013 1:43:31 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

“...young, well-educated, pro-choice whites....”
Just the folks who get to pay for Obozocare...fitting.


43 posted on 11/08/2013 1:43:32 PM PST by matginzac
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To: elkfersupper

Shove it.


44 posted on 11/08/2013 1:44:26 PM PST by Fledermaus (If we here in TN can't get rid of the worthless Lamar, it's over.)
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To: 3Fingas; beandog
Conservative are about 40$ of the electorate. If we ever want to win elections, we have to convince people who call themselves libertarians and moderates to make common cause with us. How we do this and keep our core principles is the tricky part. I think the best way to accomplish this is to insist on smaller government and focus economic issues.

No, you don't do it by offending your base (Social, Christian Conservatives, who also trend towards fiscal conservative).

You do the Reagan model, you give each group what is really important to it and demand that each group also has to compromise on their 2nd tier issues, i.e.:

1. You give Social conservatives strong support against Abortion and the Gay Agenda
2. You give Fiscal Conservatives strong support for limited and reduced government
3. You give Neo-Cons strong support for a strong, muscular Military

It just so turns out, that your core base agrees with all three of those approaches and if the those individuals that fall strongly in those three groups, to the exclusion of one or two of the others, are smart, they will agree to this strategy.

It is the only way we are going to win.
45 posted on 11/08/2013 1:44:52 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: frogjerk
Sarvis was a libertarian?

Jefferson was a libertarian.

The Founding Fathers were libertarians.

I'm a libertarian and always have been.

I have never voted for a Democrat since I registered to vote in 1970.

46 posted on 11/08/2013 1:44:59 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: FR_addict

I saw that too...true to form from that Obozo suck up “conservative”......


47 posted on 11/08/2013 1:47:18 PM PST by matginzac
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To: Fledermaus
Shove it.

Ditto.

48 posted on 11/08/2013 1:47:29 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper
The Founding Fathers were libertarians.

So you think the Founders would have been for Open Borders, Abortion, and the Gay Agenda?
49 posted on 11/08/2013 1:47:31 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie
So you think the Founders would have been for Open Borders, Abortion, and the Gay Agenda?

Of course.

They would have thought those matters should be left to the states.

50 posted on 11/08/2013 1:49:05 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Based on the exit polls, the average Sarvis voter was a younger, well-educated, pro-choice white who did not identify with either political party.

I wonder if these "low information" voters know that Starvis was a plant by the Democrats to siphon away votes for Cuccinelli? Starvis was not a Libertarian.

This younger, well-educated, pro-choice group identify with Democrats because they clearly have a disdain for the sanctity of life. After all, abortion avoids the responsibility and cost of raising children and supports the culture of death.

51 posted on 11/08/2013 1:49:40 PM PST by olezip (Time obliterates the fictions of opinion and confirms the decisions of nature. ~ Cicero)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The GOP needs to get a clue but they are TOO STUPID. People do not like what they are peddling and the status quo politicians they support. People want something else (both on the Conservative and Lib side).

The tea party could capitalize on this in a big way, but they too have their blind side, though not as bad as the establishment GOP.


52 posted on 11/08/2013 1:50:08 PM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: elkfersupper

How can federal immigration policy be left to the states? Once someone’s a citizen, they’re a citizen of any state. So you can’t have one state making a decision to legalize anyone they want with the other 49 having no veto over it.


53 posted on 11/08/2013 1:50:48 PM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: elkfersupper
They would have thought those matters should be left to the states.

You really don't know your history or constitution, do you?

Do you really believe that the founders meant for the border of the UNITED STATES, to be left up to the states?
54 posted on 11/08/2013 1:51:22 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: 3Fingas

But there are lots of ways that libertarians do not agree with the conservatives at all. In fact, they think the conservatives are as bad as dems in a few cases. Things like drug legalization, abortion, gay rights. In some ways, there are big government conservatives. “More control over certain groups of people, less control over me.”
Where would a libertarian find common ground with conservatives in that case?


55 posted on 11/08/2013 1:53:03 PM PST by christx30 (Freedom above all.)
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To: SoConPubbie

I am with you on Reagan approach. However, the electorate has changed since that time. Messaging must be different on some social issues. It must be more about what you are for and not what you are against. If you frame traditional values wrong you will repel the very middle of the road voters we need to win.


56 posted on 11/08/2013 1:53:22 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I learned my lesson about 3rd parties when big ears ran and spoiled it so Clinton won. Twice. I would love a really conservative actual Tea Party but it would be very difficult to get one started that pulled enough votes, it would take years and in the meantime we would become a dictatorship with no free elections, we are almost there now.


57 posted on 11/08/2013 1:53:54 PM PST by calex59
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To: tflabo

“Why are so many voters just pure idiots?”

I live in Minnesota. I ask myself that same question just about every election cycle.


58 posted on 11/08/2013 1:55:27 PM PST by MplsSteve
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To: Lorianne

The Tea Party IS the alternative to the establishment. Libertarians are a radical movement like the homosexual lobby. There is no libertarian tradition in America. The Tea Party is all about getting back to conservative, founding principles and rolling back progressive ideas. A movement that’s for open borders, same-sex marriage, cutting of our military and legalized drugs has more in common with progressives than not.


59 posted on 11/08/2013 1:55:31 PM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: elkfersupper

To the article which says that most of Sarvis’ base is liberal leaning Millennials.

I’d rather Republicans win (and we take on RINOS in Primaries) than left-wing/Marxist Democrats win who we know are actively trying to destroy America! (and I’m 33).


60 posted on 11/08/2013 1:58:03 PM PST by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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