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Machinists union leader: Boeing offer ‘a piece of crap’ (Everett, WA)
Seattle Times ^ | November 7, 2013 | Dominic Gates

Posted on 11/08/2013 10:19:14 AM PST by jazusamo

Machinists are expressing anger at the terms offered by Boeing to win the 777X work for Everett. Boeing said in a statement that the company is ready to "pursue other options" outside Washington.

In a dramatic end to a meeting with hundreds of disgruntled Machinists at the Seattle union headquarters Thursday night, District 751 President Tom Wroblewski tore up a copy of Boeing’s contract proposal and said he would try to have it withdrawn.

“I know this is a piece of crap,” Wroblewski said about the proposed new eight-year agreement that Boeing says will determine whether the forthcoming 777X jet is built in Everett.

“I will go to see if this can be withdrawn and not even put to a vote,” he said.

The local union leader spoke from the podium as the intense and raucous meeting came to an end and people filed out. He told members he’ll check whether the union’s bylaws allow the proposal to be pulled so there is no vote next Wednesday.

Boeing did not comment on the meeting except to say in a statement:

“All of our options are still on the table, including those within Boeing and interest we have received from outside. We chose to engage in Puget Sound first, but without full acceptance by the union and Legislature, we will be left with no choice but to open up the process competitively and pursue other options for locating the 777X work.”

Wroblewski was responding to a wave of strong negative feeling in the meeting in South Park, where members of the Local A unit of District 751 heard details of the proposed contract and voiced their opinions.

Some arrived for the meeting carrying large homemade “Vote No” signs, and the opinion of the majority came through loud and clear.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 777x; boeing; iam; unions
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

It was their system more than the people that made for success. Not having the UAW and being able to flush the workers who didn’t show up, didn’t care, or didn’t know is a big help also.


41 posted on 11/08/2013 11:06:43 AM PST by nascarnation
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To: jazusamo

Be smart like Airbus and move to Alabama!


42 posted on 11/08/2013 11:08:02 AM PST by Southern Partisan (In NYC you can be fined for spitting on the subway. You can, however, throw-up for free.)
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To: ComputerGuy

Mobile will welcome them.....LOL


43 posted on 11/08/2013 11:10:10 AM PST by BamaDi ("The definition of a racist today is anyone who is winning an argument with a liberal.")
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To: LibertarianLiz

“This is no surprise to me. I live in the Seattle area and I remember the strike that the Boeing Machinist Union took during the economic downturn”

Then you remember the Almost Live skit about the Boeing union members sleeping on their desks?


44 posted on 11/08/2013 11:13:17 AM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: LibertarianLiz
Hey, they can always work at McDonalds or Wienerschnitzel in Sea-Tac and start at $15 an hour.

Hotdog!

45 posted on 11/08/2013 11:13:29 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo (Shall Not Be Infringed)
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To: nascarnation

True enough, but those who did not get broomed did out preform the identical Japanese line by a very slight margin. At a time when the Japanese PM was making statements about stupid and lazy Americans.


46 posted on 11/08/2013 11:15:35 AM PST by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: MasterGunner01

yeah, not a very good switch if you end up in chicago.


47 posted on 11/08/2013 11:17:18 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: jazusamo

Because that worked out so well for the hostess union. Lol


48 posted on 11/08/2013 11:18:10 AM PST by steel_resolve (Ships With Holes Will Sink And I Will Swim)
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To: jazusamo

Keep it up, unions. Chengdu’s offer will ultimately win out.


49 posted on 11/08/2013 11:19:10 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: MasterGunner01

You’da thunk that the Boeing union geniuses would have learned back in the 1970’s when Boeing cut back 40,000 jobs , and darn near shut down Seattle, that their collective buttz are not golden or indispensible. But they are proving they are super slow learners about that whole idea of being competitive. None of these union goons should be buying new cars yet because Boeing cannot afford to bluff.


50 posted on 11/08/2013 11:19:25 AM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: jazusamo; JPG
Sure, just like Hostess was.

They got Twinkied!

51 posted on 11/08/2013 11:19:51 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: jazusamo

Union leaders are the biggest drama queens around.
They compete to see who can be the most vulgar and outright childish in there comments.

Is it really any wonder they are not looked upon with any respect...I still relish what Scott Walker did in WI.
It opened a lot of eyes to the real relationship of unions and politicians at the expense of the citizens.


52 posted on 11/08/2013 11:23:19 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: Steve_Seattle
“Still Boeing leaving would have a big impact.”

Let them grow medical marijuana. That will fill in the void.

53 posted on 11/08/2013 11:38:32 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: Parmy

But local Machinists are not shy about what they think. Many believe that Boeing is bluffing and will come back with a better offer if this one is rejected.

“Do you think the airline customer is going to want this plane built somewhere else where there’s no expertise?” said the 58-year-old.


54 posted on 11/08/2013 11:38:38 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: LibertarianLiz

Now the NLRB has Richard Griffin on its side so the union probably is more confident that Boeing can’t move out of Seattle.


55 posted on 11/08/2013 11:47:36 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: jazusamo

If it’s such a bad offer, I wonder why he doesn’t want the vote to go forward. I think he knows the offer would be accepted and he would lose some of his clout. It has been my experience that the union worker ants aren’t so militant as the few rabid leaders, and would chose feeding their families over propping up an idiot spokesman.


56 posted on 11/08/2013 11:52:31 AM PST by jstaff
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To: jstaff

You make a good point, was surprised that in the article it was mentioned a couple of members said they’d for the package.


57 posted on 11/08/2013 11:55:23 AM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: SkyDancer
‘a piece of crap’

Just like the union and its leader.

58 posted on 11/08/2013 12:07:38 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (What happened to my tagline??)
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To: LibertarianLiz

And the Seattle Times also - they’ve always come down on the side of the unions, constantly bashing Boeing.


59 posted on 11/08/2013 12:19:21 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: MasterGunner01

Last time Boeing slowed down there was this billboard sign reading “Will The Last Person
leaving Seattle Please Turn Out The Lights”


60 posted on 11/08/2013 12:28:11 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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