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Popular Obamacare provision is causing 'sticker shock' for some
NBC News ^ | Nov. 6, 2013 | Julie Appleby

Posted on 11/07/2013 5:48:43 PM PST by grundle

When setting premiums for next year, insurers baked in bigger-than-usual adjustments, driven in large part by a game-changing rule: They can no longer reject people with medical problems.

Popular in consumer polls, the provision in the health law transforms the market for the estimated 14 million Americans who buy their own policies because they don’t get coverage through their jobs. Barred from denying coverage, insurers also can’t demand higher rates from unhealthy people and those deemed high risks because of conditions including obesity, high blood pressure or a previous cancer diagnosis.

But the provision also adds costs. To a larger degree than other requirements of the law, it is fueling the “sticker shock” now being voiced by some consumers about premiums for new policies, say industry experts.

In setting next year’s rates, insurers must factor in “assumptions about who will sign up, high users or healthy people,” said David Axene, a fellow of the Society of Actuaries. “You can imagine who most of the health plans thought would be predominantly signing up.”

Regulatory filings and comments from insurers show they expect that accepting the sick as well as the healthy could raise their claims costs 5 percent to 50 percent or more next year. That “would be the largest single factor” at Blue Shield of California, accounting for about a 20 percent increase in expected claims costs, said Mike Beuoy, director, actuarial services.

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: aca; bcbs; buyersremorse; healthcareinsurers; obamacare; obamacarepremiums; pricetag; unaffordablecareact
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1 posted on 11/07/2013 5:48:43 PM PST by grundle
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To: grundle

It’s ‘popular’ therefore NBC believes it’s automatically a good thing.


2 posted on 11/07/2013 5:51:45 PM PST by relictele (Principiis obsta and Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The End)
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To: grundle

You get what you pay for.

Except in 0bamascare.


3 posted on 11/07/2013 5:52:21 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: grundle

All these stories about people seeing 30, 40 50% increases in their policy premiums crack me up. I wish I were that lucky.


4 posted on 11/07/2013 5:53:50 PM PST by skeeter
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To: grundle

Healthy people will have to pay for sick people. That is how health insurance works.

Young people will be the greatest losers under this plan and in the long term with our ever-growing list of entitlement commitments. We are indenturing our young even before they leave the womb.


5 posted on 11/07/2013 5:58:18 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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To: grundle

Can’t we just have Ben & Janet create another trillion a year and give it to everybody for free?


6 posted on 11/07/2013 5:59:06 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: grundle

Popular?!!


7 posted on 11/07/2013 6:00:31 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

It is popular’ to Klownie the Kenyan.


8 posted on 11/07/2013 6:03:19 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: relictele

Pressure Grows For Repeal Of ObamaCare’s Health Insurance Tax (Another $100 Billion)http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3087611/posts


9 posted on 11/07/2013 6:04:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Ted Cruz/Sarah Palin 2016)
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To: grundle

Can you insure a burning barn for fire? Sure, if the owner is willing to pay the total value + expenses as a premium.

Or you can charge his neighbors a lot more for their barn insurance, raising their premiums to level out the cost of the fire.


10 posted on 11/07/2013 6:04:59 PM PST by wildbill
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To: grundle
In setting next year’s rates, insurers must factor in “assumptions about who will sign up, high users or healthy people,” <<<

DUH!...Funny how free enterprise works as opposed to a government that can give you everything..until it runs out of “everything”!

11 posted on 11/07/2013 6:11:32 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: nascarnation
Can’t we just have Ben & Janet create another trillion a year and give it to everybody for free? <<

They could...but that cuts out the elite and the middlemen!....as someone once said...Wouldn't be prudent.../s

12 posted on 11/07/2013 6:15:34 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: 3Fingas

Healthy people will have to pay for sick people. That is how health insurance works.


It’s not “insurance” if you are already sick. That’s why it is called “coverage” now. Classic leftist word game.


13 posted on 11/07/2013 6:18:50 PM PST by lodi90
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To: grundle

As I read this article it seemed to me as if this was the first time Julie Appleby actually used her two available brain cells to consider why covering pre-existing conditions might lead to higher costs.


14 posted on 11/07/2013 6:20:55 PM PST by Mangia E Statti Zitto
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To: lodi90

Ok. Coverage.

Insurance that sick people won’t get any sicker? People using fewer services than other others.

Anyhow, I believe in fee for service. People should provide for themselves. Government should confiscate less of your income so that you can provide for yourself. Insurance/coverage should be a voluntary thing.


15 posted on 11/07/2013 6:24:21 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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To: mylife
Popular?!!

Yes. Because Americans are economically ignorant and emotionally weak. They've been brainwashed into siding against their best interests so as to not appear "mean-spirited" or "intolerant".

16 posted on 11/07/2013 6:32:39 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (You know something's really wrong when the salesman keeps selling long after the close.)
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To: 3Fingas

Yep. Just continuing the Democrat tradition of slavery.


17 posted on 11/07/2013 7:12:56 PM PST by CommieCutter
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To: grundle

“When setting premiums for next year, insurers baked in bigger-than-usual adjustments, driven in large part by a game-changing rule: They can no longer reject people with medical problems.”

...well I’m SHOCKED I tell you! Who in the world could have predicted THAT happening?

:/


18 posted on 11/07/2013 8:05:49 PM PST by Nahhh I Dont Think So
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To: mylife

yeah, that Provision is popular - people liked to hear “sick people will get coverage”

...now they are learning they are the ones who need to pay for it though, so said provision popularity might have a shelf life on it


19 posted on 11/07/2013 8:05:49 PM PST by Nahhh I Dont Think So
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To: grundle; Grampa Dave; tubebender; Carry_Okie; NormsRevenge; Ernest_at_the_Beach; budwiesest; ...
This is what the actuaries call "adverse selection" and changes any coverage from "insurance" to "a health maintenance plan!" It's like car insurance being required to pay for replacement tires, oil filters, frequent wax and even paint jobs, aging batteries, wheel alignments or things the insurance companies call "inherent vice!" (stuff that just craps out for no good reason)

What would such an auto policy of that insainly comprehensive list of coverages cost a person?

I tell ya these Democrats and Liberals have no concept of dealing with risk in any rational sort of way!!!

20 posted on 11/07/2013 9:49:48 PM PST by SierraWasp (Democrats these days are the "Glitches" in America's way of life and culture!!!)
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