[Nero Germanicus]

Yes, that’s the memo. And the birth is recorded in the 1960-1964 Hawaii Birth Index of all children born in Hawaii as well.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2011-04-23-obama-birth-certificate.htm

[Fred Nerks]

And I'm not disputing that there might have been a birth in the period 1960-1964 in Hawaii by that name, but it's useless, there are NO NAMES OF PARENTS on that index.

And iirc, that's the only Index Folder that did NOT have any dates on ther page headings. So go back and start again.

[Fred Nerks]

THIS IS WHAT A BONA FIDE BIRTH INDEX LOOKS LIKE:

SHOW ME ONE LIKE THAT FROM HAWAII AND WE'LL TALK.

[Fred Nerks]

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/28549818/2004-BIRTH-INDEX

ANOTHER EXAMPLE.

That Hawaii index is as useful as tits on a bull.

[Fred Nerks]

Yes, that's the memo...

And it doesn't bother you that the kenyan student signed off on a form he completed, and then someone else came along and ADDED INFORMATION to it? And that information just happens to correspond to the memo that was supposedly dated YEARS earlier?

Is that urine or is that rain?

[Fred Nerks]

BYE

[butterdezillion]

Why wasn’t Virginia Sunahara in the birth database when I requested her non-certified abbreviated BC?

Bear in mind that the office worker did not look in a print-out of names to fulfill my request. The request had no birth year associated with it; to respond to this request the office worker had to look in the actual database, not a (now-proven)printed manipulation of the birth records which was called the “birth index” but included names from BC’s that are not legally valid. The birth “index” also includes multiple entries for individual persons. People who have distinctive names (like somebody, Jr) so it isn’t 2 different people each with their own entry. Either the hospitals filled out 2 different long-forms for those people - each with a distinctive BC# - or else there are more names on that list than there are BC#’s or actual individual people.

So there are a lot of EXTRAS on the printed-out list. We know that for a fact. But in spite of all the extras who WERE on that list, Virginia Sunahara was not IN THE DATABASE when I asked about her. Her brother has received a certified copy of her abbreviated BC so we know they had a birth record for her. Why was her name voided from the database at the point that I queried?

Also please realize that I asked for TWO names. I asked for the non-certified abbreviated BC for either Virginia or Tomiyo Sunahara (based on the name that was in the death announcement). So this wasn’t a case where the worker mistyped a single name while querying the database. She would have typed in Sunahara and looked at all those names to see if there was a Tomiyo or a Virginia.

So far no Obot has been willing to address this. By not dealing with it they want it to go away. It won’t. Since you brought up the anomalous, manipulated, inaccurate “birth index”, you need to address this.