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To: Longbow1969
Voters are turned off by conservative firebrands like EW Jackson - ESPECIALLY in purple/blue states!

Which is why Reagan lost to Carter in 1980.......oh wait.....he didn't lose to Carter. He whupped him soundly from coast to coast by speaking the plain and unassailable truth to the voting public.

You need to come out of the closet. It's pretty obvious by your posts to me that you're a dyed-in-the-wool establishment GOPer. I'll bet you were one of Mitt's staunchest supporters on FR during the last election. I'd probably have a hard time finding a single cross word from you about John McCain. Scathing posts about the Bush's in your posting history? I'll bet I'd have a hard time finding any of those either.

Like I said, you seem not to have noticed that we're living in a time, and under a presidential regime, that isn't comparable to any other in our history. There is a radical, diabolical deconstruction, and out right dismantling of our Constitutional foundations occurring right before your eyes, yet you believe people are being hysterical.

It's why you're still trying to operate on an obsolete political model that has no relevance to the situation our nation is in today. The very notion that we even have a functioning civil system is even debatable now. This moment in time could rightfully be called a 'calm before the storm', but despite the fact that you're exposed to the best aggregation of information on the web, you're not seeing it for some reason.

I can't help you. Politics is nearly a side story to the rapid and fundamental changes that are taking place as we speak. There's every chance that it's going to take something a lot larger than a few elections to bring it to a halt and turn it around.

We've now reached a point where the Declaration is more relevant than the Constitution. Think with that and proceed accordingly.

236 posted on 11/06/2013 4:37:01 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Which is why Reagan lost to Carter in 1980.......oh wait.....he didn't lose to Carter. He whupped him soundly from coast to coast by speaking the plain and unassailable truth to the voting public.

Reagan, as I already pointed out, is EXACTLY the kind of candidate we need in as many places as possible. He's a happy warrior who sounds reasonable. He makes ideas that people who are currently not with us sound like something they could support. He came across as stable, friendly, approachable. NOTHING like a firebrand preacher like EW Jackson or Alan Keyes. Can you seriously not see the difference? Think of a guy like Scott Walker in Wisconsin (the home of the public sector union). He took on those powerful unions and won, and he did it by sounding calm, reasonable, thoughtful, pragmatic, etc.

Reagan also was open to compromise when necessary - willing to take a deal if he could get 75% of what he wanted. He was an well learned conservative ideologue who understood pragmatism was necessary in politics. You listen to purists here who believe it's all or nothing. Every day people on FR are writing off another conservative for saying something they don't agree with. It almost seems like, among many grass roots conservatives, that there is more criticism of people either on our own side or allied with us than there is attacks on the left.

We've now reached a point where the Declaration is more relevant than the Constitution. Think with that and proceed accordingly.

Again, your alluding to some sort of civil war, and it's just not likely to happen. And if the voting public even suspects that conservatives believe that it is necessary, the vast majority will never, ever vote for us. Think what conservatives and originalists must have thought during FDR's reign. FDR was a real socialist. Ever read his second bill of rights? Read your history man. That guy was a real socialist.

I agree this nation has lost its moorings and we are headed for collapse. But it isn't likely to happen anytime soon and it isn't the kind of thing the public believes. Just look at Europe - that is the path we are on. You may not realize just how far a the can can be kicked - even with a moribund, broken economy.

I'll bet you were one of Mitt's staunchest supporters on FR during the last election. I'd probably have a hard time finding a single cross word from you about John McCain. Scathing posts about the Bush's in your posting history? I'll bet I'd have a hard time finding any of those either.

Well, you'd be wrong on all counts.

240 posted on 11/06/2013 5:34:44 PM PST by Longbow1969
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