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To: Windflier
When you say, "people don't vote for crazy", you're covertly pointing a finger of recrimination at Tea Party conservatives like Ted Cruz and Sarah Palin, who unabashedly stand and fight for our Founding Principles.

Nonsense. I'm talking about people that blather on about civil war, revolutions, etc. I quite like Ted Cruz and hope he runs for President. I liked Palin till she pulled her 2012 tease campaign, kept conservatives divided because so many of her supporters were tearing down people like Perry because they thought she was going to run and were trying to clear the field for her.

That's disgusting. By way of implication, you're saying that Republican voters prefer squish 'moderates' like Romney, Boehner, McConnell, Cornyn, et al, and that they reject strong voices of conservative principles and American idealism.

More nonsense. What I am saying is that if we want to make inroads in purple and blue states, we are going to need to attract some voters that don't ordinarily vote for us. Being a happy warrior is a good start. Talking calmly and with an even temper gets you further. Paying lip service to "working with the other side" is another winning position (there is nothing wrong with offering an olive branch to reasonable people in the enemy camp). Think Ronald Reagan, Scott Walker, etc.

What DOES NOT get elected in purple/blue states is firebrands like EW Jackson. Nominating him was idiotic. The guy was doomed the second he got the nomination - AND he was almost certainly a drag on the ticket.

I find it unbelievable that you've lived through five years of unrelenting Communist destruction, and are still talking politics like it's 1975. Unreal...

You sound no different than what people were saying when Clinton was in office. It's the exact same talk. Back then many conservatives thought he was the marxist who would drive us to civil war. Turned out, not so much. Geeze man, Americans voted for FDR 4 times - and he was every bit OR MORE the socialist Obama is. I think Obama has done great damage to this country, but he is just another in a series of left wing presidents elected by the American people that is dragging this country to oblivion. The thing is, as Europe has shown us, it is quite possible to kick the debt/craptastic economy can down the road for decades even. In the meantime, firebrand conservatives are not going to usually do well in purple/blue states. Conservatives who are happy warriors and sound inclusive will.

205 posted on 11/06/2013 8:52:36 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
I'm talking about people that blather on about civil war, revolutions, etc.

Besides average citizens who post on Free Republic, what political candidates or office holders are talking about such things? In your previous post, you insinuated that voters were turned off by "crazy" talk. Ok. What politicians are you referring to, specifically?

What I am saying is that if we want to make inroads in purple and blue states, we are going to need to attract some voters that don't ordinarily vote for us. Being a happy warrior is a good start. Talking calmly and with an even temper gets you further. Paying lip service to "working with the other side" is another winning position...

That is some of the squishiest RINO speak I've ever read on Free Republic. What wins elections, is staying true to your principles, and having the courage to give voice to them at every opportunity. Ronald Reagan taught us that, and more recently, Ted Cruz proved that lesson is still valid today.

You're suggesting we adopt the McCain/Graham/Romney model, which gains you lots of friends on the left, but undermines and ultimately destroys everything Republicans supposedly stand for.

As I said earlier, you're trying to analyze American politics through the lens of a bygone era. You're no longer dealing with people who fundamentally agree with you on American basics, but with hardened radicals who want to burn the Constitution and our history books. It's not even possible to reason with such people. You can't attract them to the party by any amount of happy talk and compromise.

No, the only thing that rings their bell is Socialism, and if you think we can out Democrat the Democrats, you're as deluded as the GOP-e (which you sound exactly like).

231 posted on 11/06/2013 3:06:45 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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