[cripplecreek]

[Usagi_yo]

This is a perfect opportunity to create a Hillary meme ..... It’s not “What does it matter”, it’s ‘What did you matter?’

[a fool in paradise]

[a fool in paradise]

[raybbr]

Why do a vast majority of the American public continue to fall for the constant lies coming out of Washington?What is it that they just don’t see?

It's not what they DON'T see. It's what they DO see: If they were to recognize the lies they would have to do something about it.

Doing something about it means the derailing of the government gravy train.

They just won't face that.

[no-to-illegals]

and to think, they think, we cannot last a day without their lies.

[a fool in paradise]

All of these people lying to Congress during investigations (Benghazi, Fast & Furious, Obamacare, and more) and the BIG scandal in the past few years was that Roger Clemens, a BASEBALL ENTERTAINER, may have lied to Congress about performance enhancement drugs (the type abused by police officers across the country).

[DJ MacWoW]

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[Baynative]

Anyone who is not familiar with the Beltway Society would do themselves a favor by reading Mark Leibovich's book "This Town".

Excerpt here

[Paddyboy]

Is this the smoking hot Morgan Brittany from 80’s TV?

[slowhandluke]

"the end justifies the means. This phrase, originating from Niccolo Machiavelli's book "The Prince", is interpreted by some to mean doing anything whatsoever that is required to get the result you want, regardless of the methods used. It does not matter whether these methods are legal or illegal, fair or foul, kind or cruel, truth or lies, democratic or dictatorial, good or evil. "

Yet another low information reporter. Machiavelli might have mentioned this, but for Obama, this ethic comes directly from Saul Alinsky.

Placing the argument in the current time, with it's current prophet (Alinsky) and his current disciples (Obama and Hillary) would make the more truthful case. And because Alinsky was so very explicit in describing the case for any and all means, there may be enough detail to craft some counter.

See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2249577/posts

2. Of Means and Ends [Forget moral or ethical considerations]

"The end is what you want, the means is how you get it. Whenever we think about social change, the question of means and ends arises. The man of action views the issue of means and ends in pragmatic and strategic terms. He has no other problem; he thinks only of his actual resources and the possibilities of various choices of action. He asks of ends only whether they are achievable and worth the cost; of means, only whether they will work. ... The real arena is corrupt and bloody."

"The third rule of ethics of means and ends is that in war the end justifies almost any means...." p.29

"The seventh rule... is that generally success or failure is a mighty determinant of ethics...." p.34

"The tenth rule... is you do what you can with what you have and clothe it with moral garments.... p.36