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High Deductibles Chase the Middle Class from Health Services
American Thinker ^ | November 4, 2013 | Joseph E. McIsaac

Posted on 11/04/2013 12:15:25 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

In a recent conversation, a good buddy enraged by his new private insurance premiums and $5,800-per-year deductible said something that struck me as undoubtedly prophetic.

"I'd literally need to be dying before I would start paying this ridiculous deductible for routine care."

Under ObamaCare, those who work for a living incur massive premium and deductible increases to subsidize those that cannot or will not provide their own insurance. In the universe of ObamaCare, unless you are among the privileged dependency class that enjoys free health care, gone are the days when cautionary calls can be made to the doctor because a child has a stomachache or bad cough, because such calls will cost you five hundred bucks or so.

As with so many utopian policies of the progressive Left, ObamaCare is rife with unintended consequences that inflict pernicious pain and damage on society.

When Ideology Trumps All

In December of 2009, Mark Steyn adroitly warned,"Democrat operators ... know that what matters is to get something, anything across the river, and then burn the bridge behind you" and that single-payer, government-run health care is "the fast track to a permanent left-of-center political culture."

As recently as August 12 of this year,...Harry Reid openly confirmed Steyn's prediction that ObamaCare is but a stepping stone toward achieving the ultimate goal of the progressive left:a single-payer system.

Now that the Obama administration has rolled out its self-proclaimed "single greatest achievement," some hard facts are finally becoming known about costs and sign-up counts, even as the government fights tooth and nail to prevent such disclosures. And for good reason: Medicaid enrollment is soaring, and new paid policies are almost nonexistent.

Financially, Obama looks to be much worse than a train wreck, but progressives don't really care about money. It's all about the ideology and getting everyone over that bridge.

Insurance Industry Suckered...

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: abortion; aca; deathpanels; deductibles; healthcare; medicalcost; obamacare; zerocare
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Read the whole OpEd.

Bottom line: The middle class (with government demanding they open their wallets wider) is discouraged from seeking medical care.

We need a new term for government healthcare, something in the vein of "Highwaymen."

1 posted on 11/04/2013 12:15:25 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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".......Nirschl took apart the concept of “health insurance” arguing that it’s an inaccurate buzzword. What is being legislated is not insurance at all, Nirschl said. By its very nature, “insurance” is a way of protecting against an unforeseen, catastrophic incident. It works by having large groups of people paying premiums into a central fund with the understanding that if they were to suffer an unlikely incident, they will be compensated. The likelyhood of people claiming out of the central fund is a calculated through a risk assessment, and the riskier the “bet,” the higher the premium. Nirschl points out that since the 1950s’s true health “insurance” has not existed.

“The facts of the matter are that the product we have had has, since the UAW (United Auto Workers) negotiated with General Motors in 1959 to do first dollar coverage, we destroyed the concept of insurance,” Nirschl said. “The product we have had since 1959 has been a hybrid of a service maintenance contract plus insurance. If you’re going to buy true insurance, you want to buy it for a catastrophic event, example, auto insurance. If I go to my auto insurer, I don’t want to be covered for oil changes and lube jobs. I want to be covered for a car crash and so when we went to first dollar coverage thats when it [health insurance] became a service maintenance contract.”

Nirschl explained the consequences of including supplementary services on premiums using his auto insurance analogy: “One hundred percent of folks are going to use the service. One hundred percent of people who want cars are going to get oil changes and lube jobs, so it doesn’t lower the premium. It increases the premium, and at the same time it adds an enormous administrative cost… We squander 35 percent in administrative costs by this form of insurance… For maintenance services, oil changes and lube job, you want to pay out of your own pocket, and you want to basically have insurance for a car crash, for catastrophic things. So we have destroyed true insurance.” ...........Source

2 posted on 11/04/2013 12:15:42 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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Outsourcing of workplace coverage grows "Allison Martiny really didn't have many options when choosing health insurance for her family at annual open enrollment. Only one of the two plans her employer offered made any sense, and even that didn't include the dental coverage her kids need. Then her company, a small IT recruiting and staffing firm in Atlanta called eCommQuest, did something you'll see a lot more companies do in the next few years: Instead of sponsoring an insurance program that offered only a few choices, it is giving employees some money and sending them to shop for their coverage online in a marketplace operated by an outside firm.

Martiny and her colleagues can pick and choose, buffet-style, from a dozen or more plans offering insurance at different prices, with low to high deductibles and big or small co-payments, for medical, dental and vision coverage.

“I like it so far,” Martiny said. “It will take a little time to make sure we're choosing the best option for us financially, but I prefer having the ability to make my own decisions regarding my family's coverage.”

Private vs. public

The outsourcing of employer-provided insurance to what are known as “private exchanges” stands to radically transform the way health insurance is provided in the American workplace, experts say. They have been described as similar to a 401(k) plan, and they could someday become as common as the retirement program.

For employers and employees alike, health insurance problem forces tough decisions. But while they offer both employer and employee something desirable in the bargain, the private exchanges also shift responsibility and possibly additional cost to workers, some of whom may not be prepared to handle it all.

“This is part of a fast-evolving strategy in which employers transition from the “defined benefit” strategy they have employed for decades, in which the employer was responsible for providing for a set percentage of the coverage expense, to a “defined contribution” strategy, in which the employer provides a set-dollar amount, said David Bottoms, vice president of The Bottoms Group, an Atlanta employee benefits consulting firm.

“This closely mirrors the evolution in the retirement plan space from defined benefit plans — pensions — to defined contribution plans — 401(k)s,” he said..............."

3 posted on 11/04/2013 12:18:09 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Obamacare and everything the snake oil salesman sells is supposed to benefit the middle class. But it's the middle class which pays through the nose. With Obamacare, it won't just be money. They will pay with their lives.
4 posted on 11/04/2013 12:23:58 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Not to mention ACA is pretty much the path to the end of religion in this country.


5 posted on 11/04/2013 12:30:22 AM PST by nickcarraway
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Expert: At least 129M will ‘not be able to keep’ health care plan if Obamacare fully implemented ".........Given how extensively presidential statements — especially to a joint session of Congress — are vetted and fact-checked, it is pretty inconceivable that President Obama was not aware that he was engaged in some degree of truth-twisting.” ..........................
6 posted on 11/04/2013 12:37:51 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: fatnotlazy
At least for the time being, the government is not enforcing payment of the fine/tax for failure to carry insurance. In the event ACA destroys my plan (which I like) I'm resolved to not only not go into Obamacare, but restructure my withholding to leave no refund for the IRS to take.

When they eventually hold a gun to my head I'll pay of course and do whatever I'm forced to but at least they'll have dropped all pretenses that this is anything but naked tyranny.

7 posted on 11/04/2013 1:15:06 AM PST by stormhill (Guns Save Lives!)
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To: stormhill
The Obamamedia will be working overtime to make any Obamacare problems the fault of the Tea Party "wing" of the GOP.

They're getting their marching orders as we "speak."

Obama [stumping for McAullife]: "While Congress can "get away with" gridlock, Obama said, a governor can not.

"The governor, that's a practical job," Obama said, adding, "They can not afford to be ideologues.".....

McAullife [stumping in VA gubernatorial race]: "Can you even imagine if Ted Cruz, Ken Cuccinelli and the Tea Party ran Virginia government?"............."If mainstream Virginians from both parties don’t turn out to vote, you’re letting the Tea Party decide Virginia’s future."

Rep. Jim Moran, D-Va [stumping for McAullife]: "We need more Ted Cruzes like we need a hole in the head,"..

8 posted on 11/04/2013 1:17:39 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

1) You can keep yer doctor.. OKAaaaaY....
2) You will pay less premiums.. OKAaaaaY...
3) Yer deductible will go down... OKAaaaY!...

9 posted on 11/04/2013 1:20:46 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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Because a majority (spanning 10 years) offering the opening prayer at meetings where Christian.........

Supreme Court to hear new case on religion in public life"....A federal appeals court said last year that such a “steady drumbeat” of Christian invocations violates the Constitution’s prohibition against government endorsement of religion.......

.......After the lawsuit was threatened, the town made more of an effort — that’s how the Baha’i representative and the Wiccan got involved — but all agree that the overwhelming number of prayers offered over the approximately 10 years covered by the suit were offered by Christians, and most contained direct references to Christianity."

10 posted on 11/04/2013 1:24:24 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: hosepipe

What a cutie-pie.


11 posted on 11/04/2013 1:24:47 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

>> The Obamamedia will be working overtime to make any Obamacare problems the fault of the Tea Party “wing” of the GOP.

Yup, they’re dirtbags in the truest sense.


12 posted on 11/04/2013 1:25:23 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What a cutie-pie.


Valerie Jarrett thinks so too..


13 posted on 11/04/2013 1:39:56 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe

Take it to another thread.


14 posted on 11/04/2013 1:40:54 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It looks like a lot of the middle class will be driven out of medical insurance and back to paying for health services themselves. i.e. forced into a free market for healthcare and away from the government so-called “market place”.


15 posted on 11/04/2013 1:51:57 AM PST by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It is not the monthly premiums that will kill you, but the massive deductibles. People will simply refuse to go see a doctor because of the high deductibles that have to be met first, before the insurance kicks in.
16 posted on 11/04/2013 2:09:05 AM PST by rawhide
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To: MulberryDraw

Good take.

If it can do this, it would be great...

But we MUST repeal the Democrat Party-Reid-Pelosi-Obama Obamacare federal government dictate.

How will Congress handle this?

Will they make that “easy” or hard (or impossible) to do?

Will they fight “O-bey-me” or will they roll over?


17 posted on 11/04/2013 2:11:46 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: rawhide

It’s unsustainable.

Hillary will call for universal healthcare.


18 posted on 11/04/2013 2:13:15 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

As with so many utopian policies of the progressive Left, ObamaCare is “rife with unintended consequences” that inflict pernicious pain and damage on society.

UNINTENDED my butt.


19 posted on 11/04/2013 2:13:54 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (On the evening of 10/16/13, the ailing republican party breathed its last breath.)
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David Horowitz wrote this during the Bill/Hillary Adm: ".........................For the self-anointed messiahs, the goal, “social justice,” is not about rectifying particular wrongs, which would be practical and modest -- and therefore conservative. Rather, their crusade is about rectifying injustice in the very order of things. “Social Justice” for them is a world reborn, in which prejudice and violence and inequalities no longer exist. It is a world in which everyone is equally advantaged and lacks fundamentally conflicting desires. It is a world that could only come into being through a reconstruction of human nature and of the social order itself. Even though they are too prudent and self-protective to name it anymore, the post-Communist left still passionately believes in their totalitarian future.

But this new world that has never existed, never will, while the attempt to reach it can only bring back the gulags and graveyards we have come to know too well. The century has taught us, to attempt the impossible is to invite the catastrophic. But progressives have failed to learn the lesson, to make the connection between their utopian ideals and the destructive consequences that flow from them. The fall of Communism has had a cautionary impact only on the overt agendas of the political left. Its moral arrogance is not diminished.

No matter how opportunistically the left’s rhetoric has been modified, no matter how generous the concessions it has made, the faithful cannot give up the belief in their mission to the future.

Because the transformation they seek is still total, the power they seek is total. No matter how many compromises they strike along the way. The compromises are themselves integral to the strategy of their mission. The transformation of the world requires the permanent entrenchment of the saints in power. Therefore, everything is justified that serves to achieve the continuance of Them..........................."

20 posted on 11/04/2013 2:20:16 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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