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1 posted on 11/03/2013 10:28:47 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee

bump


2 posted on 11/03/2013 10:29:43 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: Brad from Tennessee

When your currency is debasing, stocks will be expressed in terms of ‘more dollars’.


3 posted on 11/03/2013 10:30:44 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Money taken out of the market will go where, real estate? Commodities? Mattresses?


4 posted on 11/03/2013 10:33:40 AM PST by Argus
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To: Brad from Tennessee

“The U.S. isn’t expected to grow at anything close to breakneck speed next year.”

How can you do that if your population is at minimum or slightly below replacement levels in its fertility rate?

We don’t manufacture our citizenry like we used to and we sent most of our manufacturing of goods overseas. Only 12% of the economy is manufacturing-based.


9 posted on 11/03/2013 10:41:26 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
It's been doom and gloom for the past 6 years so sooner or later one of these idiots will be right!
10 posted on 11/03/2013 10:42:09 AM PST by america-rules
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14 posted on 11/03/2013 10:49:10 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

We enter the time of year where shorts find themselves curled in a fetal position on the floor while everyone else is having a good holiday time. Ask me how I know.

The market has retail investors exactly where it wants them: The market seems very toppy and there isn’t exactly any kind of Macy’s 20% off sale going on. No. You have to rush down to Macy’s at a 1/37th of 1% off sale. The only thing to do is to “already be long”. The number of traders who have beat simply buying and holding SPY (the SP500 index etf) or equivalent with ZERO trades all year is so close to zero it’s not even worth talking about.

The market has withstood each and every glitch thrown at it. End of the world, end of Italy, crappy (un)employment numbers, stagnant GDP numbers, the prospect of consumers getting smoked on their healthcare premia and thus not being to splurge on Chinese crap over Xmas. Instinctively, the dollar should be weakening on QE-forever, but the ten year is back to the 2.5-2.6% area (down from threatening 3% mere weeks ago) and oil is literally crashing.

Very little makes sense, but “making sense” is not “making money”.

Personally...I believe (and...”belief” is not a fundamental) that the market is actually applauding the intensified fascist/corporatist state.

I really have no specific reco. Buying on dips has worked EVERY TIME over the past 4 years. That’s an observation, not a reco.

I can’t see any good reason NOT to buy SPYders and leave it alone. “Reason” is not operative. The Fed cannot abandon its stance. The mere threat of such drove the DJ down over 1000 points about a month ago. I think we are living in a synthetic environment and it kind of reminds me of the period right after 9/11/2001. The US kind of shut down. Gradually, folks poked their heads out from under their rocks. The ones who did so first, benefitted most. In a far more slo-motion way, I think we are in roughly the same position, though later in the scenario. Like it or not, we have 3 more years of 0bama, and his best advertisement is the relentless rise of the stock market despite truly lackluster economic performance. I acknowledge that unlike that point in time, the market is not now depressed. Indeed it’s at AT highs.

The only thing I can not seem to convince myself of is that there is a reason for this to stop. I don’t see it. I don’t see the preference for the cash that would result from selling stocks. I sure don’t feel it, the charts don’t say it. But bull, bear, skeptic or fanatic, you can never, ever be short during T-giving > Xmas. Never.


16 posted on 11/03/2013 10:54:16 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

All that “Quantitative Easing” is going into inflating stocks...nothing else.


18 posted on 11/03/2013 11:27:16 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Brad from Tennessee
I've been investing in stock since the mid 1980s and even back then, you had the know-it-alls chortling that the bottom was about to fall out and that all those Wall Street types would get their comeuppance and that I would be much better off buying bricks of gold with my money and burying them under the floor in my basement.

Even back then, the whole "buy gold" argument puzzled me. If the U.S. dollar was really so worthless, then why were all these traders so willing to accept these "soon to be worthless" dollars in exchange for their precious gold bars?

Furthermore, if the doomsday predictions ever came true and the U.S. economy suffered a total collapse, then how would I go about using all those gold bars that I stored up? Would I take a gold bar down to the corner store to buy milk and bread? How would I get my change?

Lastly, if I ever showed up at the corner store with a bar of gold, how likely would it be that somebody would follow me home? I would say very likely.

I guess someday the gloom and doomers will be correct but in the meantime, I've been doubling my net worth on average about every 6-7 years with the stock market (rule of 72 principle combined with dollar cost averaging).

19 posted on 11/03/2013 11:38:46 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I’m sick of this “DOW’s up, DOW’s down” crap. Fluctuation is normal.
Amounts that are not adjusted for the loss of purchasing power of money are meaningless.


20 posted on 11/03/2013 11:40:18 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The health insurance sticker shock will kill holiday spending.


22 posted on 11/03/2013 11:43:49 AM PST by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
For some investors, it feels a lot more like 1999 than 2013.

Obama is doing everything to hurt the economy and the fed is artificially creating a stock bubble because with interest rates at artificial ridiculously low rates there is nowhere else for money to go but stocks.

Having said that the statement above is way off. In 1999 there was a tech stock bubble with the average P/E ratio in the 40s. P/E is now 19 which is higher than average but nothing like 1999. Nonetheless the market is being artificially held up so major correction could happen at any moment

23 posted on 11/03/2013 11:53:27 AM PST by plain talk
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I think Aquila48 and Attention Surplus Disorder have the best description of reality I’ve seen.(IMHO).


25 posted on 11/03/2013 12:21:51 PM PST by Shark24
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Once the Fed’s monopoly money stops, the markets will crash.


26 posted on 11/03/2013 12:41:38 PM PST by Signalman
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Inflated currency.


29 posted on 11/03/2013 1:32:36 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: Brad from Tennessee

As long as interest rates remain near zero, the stock market looks attractive.


36 posted on 11/03/2013 3:54:53 PM PST by tips up (Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
"Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau." -- Irving Fisher, Professor of Economics, Yale University, 1929.
37 posted on 11/03/2013 8:44:21 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina ("Better be wise by the misfortunes of others than by your own." -- Aesop)
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