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Report: Ted Cruz could ride Tea Party support to White House [birther trolls stay out! JimRob]
Washington Examiner ^
| NOVEMBER 1, 2013 AT 11:21 AM
| PAUL BEDARD
Posted on 11/01/2013 12:22:43 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
The friendly fire directed at Sen. Ted Cruz from establishment Republicans is giving the Texan first-in-line status among Tea Party supporters and building a base for him to run for president, according to a new analysis from the University of Virginias Center for Politics.
To the establishment, Cruz is the embodiment of all the forces conspiring to threaten the GOP's long-term viability. And, on a personal level, they also just can't stand Cruz: He drives them crazy, wrote Kyle Kondik in Center Director Larry Sabato's popular Crystal Ball.
But, added Kondik, the venom directed at Cruz, whose effort to defund Obamacare led to a 16-day government shutdown, makes him an oversized hero to Tea Party supporters.
Not pleasing the establishment is music to the ears of Tea Party activists, and if anything the shutdown has endeared Cruz even more to them. Assuming Cruz mounts a presidential bid in 2016 hes headed to South Carolina next week after his Iowa appearance last Friday (hint, hint) the Tea Party could be a potent base, he said.
Kondik took note of the Twitter sneers GOP old bulls fired off as Cruz spoke to Iowa Republicans a week ago. [Mike] Murphy (@murphymike), an alum from John McCains rogue 2000 presidential campaign and a "Meet the Press" regular, was one of the establishment Republicans tweeting snark about Cruz during his speech, he noted.
Murphy tweeted: Sounds like we got trouble in River City
Good citizens, make your check payable to Cruz Against Soviet Healthcare. Or just CASH
And thats nothing new, said Kondik: Ever since hes been elected, we here at the Crystal Ball have heard groaning from Democrats and Republicans alike about how much they dislike Cruz.
But could Cruz win the nomination in whats expected to be a crowded field? A big hurdle might be GOP endorsements, typically from the establishment and to establishment candidates like Mitt Romney.
At this point, its hard to imagine Cruz winning much support from party elites, so hed have to depend on the Tea Party grassroots, said Kondik, who noted that both parties have detoured with non-establishment candidates in the past and lost the Republicans in 1964 with Barry Goldwater and Democrats in 1972 with George McGovern.
His bottom line: Ted Cruz is riding high in some Republican/Tea Party circles precisely because he aggravates many high-ranking members of his own party. But his icy relationship with those party leaders might cause him problems if and when he decides to run for president.Paul Bedard, The Washington Examiner's "Washington Secrets" columnist, can be contacted at pbedard@washingtonexaminer.com.
TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2014election; 2016; 2016election; certifigate; cruz; election2014; election2016; naturalborncitizen; president; tedcruz; texas; tx
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To: clamper1797
I think its a given that Ted Cruz is the best conservative candidate ... now who should run with him on the ticket? Mike Lee?
Works for me. They seem to go together like Roy Rogers and Gabby Hays.
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posted on
11/01/2013 4:11:05 PM PDT
by
Idaho_Cowboy
(Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
To: SoConPubbie
Instead of wading through Paul Bedard's interpretation of Kondik's article, why not go read the genuine article
here.
Mr. Kondik is not nearly as positive as Mr. Bedard. This is best summarized in Kondik's closing paragraph:
Ted Cruz is riding high in some Republican/Tea Party circles precisely because he aggravates many high-ranking members of his own party. But his icy relationship with those party leaders might cause him problems if and when he decides to run for president. A recent history of party endorsements shows that they can be an indicator of who wins presidential nominations, and someone other than Cruz someone who has not burned so many bridges with other prominent members of his party is likely to attract that establishment support during the run-up to the Iowa caucuses two years from now.
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posted on
11/01/2013 4:18:50 PM PDT
by
upchuck
(I've got maternity care via Obamacare! Now, if I could just figure out how a male gets pregnant...)
To: BlueStateRightist
Yep.
And, Obama has a huge enemies list. Probably more people dislike Obama than dislike Cruz.
83
posted on
11/01/2013 4:31:46 PM PDT
by
Mister Da
(The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
To: MrB
From the Era of Obama onward, the natural born citizen requirement is rendered moot and irrelevant.
To preclude any and all possible future references to this obsolete qualification, and thus to avoid confusion and pointless discourse, the phrase “natural born Citizen” should be expunged from Article II, Section 1, United States Constitution.
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posted on
11/01/2013 4:34:26 PM PDT
by
Elsiejay
To: upchuck
Mr. Kondik is not nearly as positive as Mr. Bedard. This is best summarized in Kondik's closing paragraph:
Why do I care about the negative opining's of any of the chattering class?
The truth is, as borne out by President Reagan, fidelity to Conservative Principle sells. It wins massive victories.
On the other hand, those who go all mushy-mouthed and abandon their principles or who never had any principles in the first place, George H. Bush, John McCain, Bob Dole, Mitt Romney, and lately, Rand Paul, provide, in stark relief, the negative results of such cowardly behavior.
85
posted on
11/01/2013 4:47:15 PM PDT
by
SoConPubbie
(Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
To: SoConPubbie
"A Birther is someone, for whatever motivation, good or bad, argues inane, unimportant points on this issue to the distraction of everything, and everyone else. "Nothing is more important than defending the Constitution, including the Article II natural born Citizen requirement for POTUS.
The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term natural born citizen to any other category than those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof.
"The citizenship of no man could be previous to the declaration of independence, and, as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776."....David Ramsay, 1789.
A Dissertation on Manner of Acquiring Character & Privileges of Citizen of U.S.-by David Ramsay-1789
The Law of Nations or the Principles of Natural Law (1758)
The Biggest Cover-up in American History
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posted on
11/01/2013 4:47:51 PM PDT
by
Godebert
To: PapaNew
“I dont understand why Obamas mothers citizenship wouldnt transfer to Obama, if in fact she was a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth. Can you elucidate?”
Sure::
US Law clearly stipulates: “If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.”
Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai’i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years prior to Barack Obama’s birth, but after age 16.
In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18 in Hawaii. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aforementioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Citizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.
To: Godebert; SoConPubbie
Report: Ted Cruz could ride Tea Party support to White House Obama's refusal to prove his eligibility has unfortunately become the main issue of such a good Ted Cruz/Tea Party article. Let's stop with the implications that Birthers/Constitutionalists should have a problem with Ted Cruz's eligibility to become President of the United States when there is no problem since he's as eligible as John McCain.
Perhaps this article title's ending in brackets was to bait Constitutionalists?
What a shame that SoConPubbie would actually try to pin constitutionalists against Ted Cruz on a false premise that Senator Cruz is as ineligible as Barack Hussein Obama when the opposite is true.
I AM a Birther and do NOT see how one can imply that Ted Cruz has an eligibilty problem like Obama. I am also a Ted Cruz supporter and because of that I'm offended that he be placed in the same category as Barack Hussein Obama especially if it's to create contraversy with the objective to pin Constitutional Conservatives against him before the Primaries even start.
Perhaps some people dislike "birthers" more than they like Cruz. So sad. The last thing I wish to see is another candidate McCain in 2016 because of manufacturing a crisis against a good man like Senator Ted Cruz.
The real story here is: Ted Cruz could ride Tea Party support to White House
Not birtherism.
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posted on
11/01/2013 6:24:15 PM PDT
by
tsowellfan
(www.cafenetamerica.com)
To: Baum Threat
To: CelesteChristi
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posted on
11/01/2013 6:43:27 PM PDT
by
Godebert
To: CelesteChristi
HOW did Barry’s mom’s citizenship not transfer to him?
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posted on
11/01/2013 6:58:46 PM PDT
by
Jack Black
( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
To: BlueStateRightist
How is Obama different than Cruz in this specific regard?
***************************
Cruz has a much more impressive resume’ of accomplishments!
Arguing and winning cases before SCOTUS, clerking for a Justice, Texas Solicitor General, etc., before becoming a Senator. Plus, he’s a hell of a lot more intelligent!
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posted on
11/01/2013 6:59:26 PM PDT
by
octex
To: Viennacon
He is the ONLY LEADER IN THE PARTY!
Let’s face it. If we do, then mcf@ckus and bonedus and the rest won’t even run except away.
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posted on
11/01/2013 7:13:25 PM PDT
by
longfellow
(Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
To: octex
94
posted on
11/01/2013 7:13:44 PM PDT
by
Guenevere
(....)
To: Tennessee Conservative
Walker?.....He’s for amnesty.....No Walker for me.
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posted on
11/01/2013 7:15:23 PM PDT
by
Guenevere
(....)
To: SoConPubbie
Most liberals and RINOS think Hilary is unbeatable and perfect.
Deep down liberals and RINOS believe that Ted Cruz has the best chance of any Republican of fluking a victory against Hilary.
The people who think Ted Cruz is unelectable don’t think Hilary can be beaten by anyone. The only way Jeb or Christie get the nomination would be if Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Rand Paul, Steve King and Sarah Palin run until the end and Jeb gets 17% of the vote.
To: Tennessee Conservative
Walker is okay as a Governor.
To: Jack Black
“HOW did Barrys moms citizenship not transfer to him?”
US Law clearly stipulates: If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.
Barack Obamas father was not a U.S. citizen and Obamas mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawaii being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years prior to Barack Obamas birth, but after age 16.
In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obamas birth when she was 18 in Hawaii. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obamas birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aforementioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Citizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.
To: Godebert
“The citizenship of no man could be previous to the declaration of independence, and, as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776.”....David Ramsay, 1789.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I agree with Ramsey, but what Ramsey wrote and how US Law reads are two different things.
To: PapaNew
“So why do we (we=the good guys, us, the freedom lovers) want to validate their tactics by picking up and use the term, “birther”, the way they did/do?”
Exactly. Ask you self what kind of person would use such a liberal tactic and liberal phrase in trying to stir up trouble the way that only liberals can.
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posted on
11/01/2013 7:46:58 PM PDT
by
Revel
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