Posted on 10/31/2013 2:03:32 PM PDT by Libloather
The firestorm over President Obama's "you can keep your plan" lie now threatens to singe vulnerable Democrats next year, so they're springing into action to try to force the administration to keep its word. Louisiana's Mary Landrieu -- an ardent Obamacare supporter -- is scrambling to undo one of the obvious consequences of a law she's voted to pass, fund, and retain:
Sen. Mary Landrieu said Wednesday she would propose legislation to ensure all Americans could keep their existing insurance coverage under Obamacare, a fresh sign of the political problems the laws rollout has created for congressional Democrats. Landrieu, a Democrat who faces a tough reelection in Louisiana in 2014, said she would either offer her own bill or formally sign onto another measure that would ensure that the law would not force anyone off of their existing health policies. The promise was made, and it should be kept, Landrieu said in the Capitol Wednesday. And it was our understanding when we voted for that bill that people when they have insurance could keep with what they had. So Im going to be working on that fix.
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Yep, this is basically an “opt out” for the folks they NEED to
force into Obamacare.
Won’t work. Will make the system crash faster.
Has no posted this on FR yet??
Yes, it says 93 million Americans
Sounds like 10-cent Mary is feeling some heat. No dice.. Repeal it... and start over.
Your understanding based on what? You didn't read the bill. Nobody did. You voted for it anyway, you own it.
Section 1251 of the Affordable Care Act contains whats called a grandfather provision that, in theory, allows people to keep their existing plans if they like them. But subsequent regulations from the Obama administration interpreted that provision so narrowly as to prevent most plans from gaining this protection.
The Departments mid-range estimate is that 66 percent of small employer plans and 45 percent of large employer plans will relinquish their grandfather status by the end of 2013, wrote the administration on page 34,552 of the Register. All in all, more than half of employer-sponsored plans will lose their grandfather status and become illegal. According to the Congressional Budget Office, 156 million Americansmore than half the populationwas covered by employer-sponsored insurance in 2013.
Another 25 million people, according to the CBO, have nongroup and other forms of insurance; that is to say, they participate in the market for individually-purchased insurance. In this market, the administration projected that 40 to 67 percent of individually-purchased plans would lose their Obamacare-sanctioned grandfather status and become illegal, solely due to the fact that there is a high turnover of participants and insurance arrangements in this market. (Plans purchased after March 23, 2010 do not benefit from the grandfather clause.) The real turnover rate would be higher, because plans can lose their grandfather status for a number of other reasons.
How many people are exposed to these problems? 60 percent of Americans have private-sector health insuranceprecisely the number that Jay Carney dismissed. As to the number of people facing cancellations, 51 percent of the employer-based market plus 53.5 percent of the non-group market (the middle of the administrations range) amounts to 93 million Americans.
“And it was our understanding when we voted for that bill that people when they have insurance could keep with what they had. So Im going to be working on that fix.
She should have listened to Nancy Pelosi. Pelosi was absolute in her statement.
Yes, they can so move. It will probably take them a couple of months to do it. In a large automated bureaucracy, everything takes months.
Not for those who are on group plans provided by employers. 93 million stand to lose their insurance by next year.
Complete Flop Sweat by Landrieu who is up for re-election next year. Her internal polling must be in the toilet!
'Uh ... um ... I didn't know ... um ... nobody told me this ...'
I got a better idea; repeal Obamacare entirely.
Don't be so sexist. Husseincare covers the guys, too.
The same Ron Johnson who refused to stand by Ted Cruz because his plan had no chance to pass? Now Johnson is proposing a plan that has no chance to pass?
Hypocrisy much Senator Johnson??
Sure, they could but why on earth would they? Insurers now have no incentive to offer non-compliant plans now that Obamacare has given them the green light to offer nothing but expensive, comprehensive plans to everyone.
And it was our understanding when we voted for that bill that people when they have insurance could keep with what they had.”
I know we all hate Ms.Landrieu, she’s a dope, but I think she really makes a valid point here.
The plain language of the law, which is what they voted on, indicated that plans in effect at that time would remain in effect. This was altered by HHS when they wrote the regulations and everything I’ve been reading indicates that getting rid of all these plans was not required by the bill, it was put in effect by the regulations done by the executive branch.
So, he lied to his allies too, but why should that surprise them?
This was in the original bill passed ruing that fateful week in March 2010. Do you remember? The bill you had to pass before you could see what was in it?
Well, one of the things in it gave the HHR Secretary power to set minimum standards, effectively destroying the marketplace for policies which didn't meet those standards.
The standards, of course, include unlimited rehab for druggies, winos, whack jobs and ObaMao voters (but I repeat myself), free birth control, abortions and (soon) sex change operations.
It isn't ObaMao's fault that most people don't want all that sh*t included in their policy sandwich. Somebody has to pay for it. And it isn't going to be the ruling class. Or ObaMao's people who won the election.
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