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To: sukhoi-30mki; Jet Jaguar

After all these years, the F-16 continues to be the best damn MRF ever.

It appears physics and engineering capped out in the early 1970’s.

In 10 or so years (late 60s, early 70s) we developed and deployed the F-16 MRF, the F-15 Air Superiority, the F-18 MRF, the F-14 Tomcat (killed by politics not ability) and the B-1 Lancer. Not to mention the craft that will never be bettered until we get warp drive: the SR-71 Blackbird.

The F-22’s avionics may have given it an edge, but it has never actually proven itself to be 1:1 air superiority over, say, the F-15.

The only meaningful change since then have been the F-117 Nighthawk and the B-2 Spirit. But they were incremental, not fundamental, changes.

My point is: Back then we had grand ideas that started from a napkin and ended in short order in production-ready craft that have stood the test of time.

Nowadays, we have the F-35 flying anvil which took 20 years to even get a test drive and are useless for any purpose.

A camel is a mouse built to government specifications.


4 posted on 10/29/2013 10:24:43 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: freedumb2003

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5 posted on 10/29/2013 10:26:38 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: freedumb2003

“After all these years, the F-16 continues to be the best damn MRF ever.

It appears physics and engineering capped out in the early 1970’s.

In 10 or so years (late 60s, early 70s) we developed and deployed the F-16 MRF, the F-15 Air Superiority, the F-18 MRF, the F-14 Tomcat (killed by politics not ability) and the B-1 Lancer. Not to mention the craft that will never be bettered until we get warp drive: the SR-71 Blackbird.”

Good points.
F14 has speed and range over newer stuff.
SR71 was abandoned but the older, slower, lower flying, everything less U-2 was kept?! What the F**K?!

With the current Obama regime, probably our next weapon system will be designed by the same people who did Obama’s “Cr*pCare”.
The “healthcare” system so bad, that the Dems were willing to shut down the Govt rather than to be required to participate in ObabaCare.


7 posted on 10/29/2013 10:41:45 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (The question is not whether Obama ever lies, but whether he ever tells the truth.)
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To: freedumb2003
It appears physics and engineering capped out in the early 1970’s.

I often made the same assessment myself where we reached a plateau sometime between the 1960 to 1975 era. When you think about it, JFK had jet planes that flew just as fast as our planes fly today and that was 50 years ago.

After all these years, the F-16 continues to be the best damn MRF ever.

Agreed. BTW, I'd also like to have seen that the F-20 (upgraded F-5) could have done too.

The only meaningful change since then have been the F-117 Nighthawk and the B-2 Spirit. But they were incremental, not fundamental, changes.

Agreed although in the case of the B-2, IMHO, it is/was a waste of money, it's basically a hanger queen, a maintenance hog. The F-117, less so, it did its job.

Nowadays, we have the F-35 flying anvil which took 20 years to even get a test drive and are useless for any purpose.

It screams "junk" to me It's a worse waste of time and money than even the B-2.
9 posted on 10/29/2013 10:47:21 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (I miss you, Whitey! (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012) It has been a year, rest in peace, pretty girl!)
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To: freedumb2003
It appears physics and engineering capped out in the early 1970’s.

The End of the Future

12 posted on 10/29/2013 10:57:22 PM PDT by ClaytonP
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