But how would we know whether that was what the Founding Fathers intended? Right now the Founding Fathers’ wisdom is looking mighty good by comparison to what we have today. When I was a kid I wanted to do what I wanted, and thought my parents were stupid. Now that I’ve lived a bit, I really value my parents’ wisdom and want to make sure I hear it.
I don’t want to get around what the Founding Fathers said; I want to truly understand their wisdom. I hear you guys debating and I don’t know what to think. I want an earnest answer from an honest, non-threatened authority that values the Founding Fathers’ wisdom as much as I do. That’s what the judiciary is supposed to be, and what they are supposed to do. It’s like a pastor who is given Biblical and theological training so he can understand and interpret the Bible and help normal people understand what God says to us and does for us.
What would happen when CA rules Schwartzneggar to be a NBC?
Schwarz obviously is naturalized, so no matter which side of the NBC debate you’re on, naturalized doesn’t fit into it.
I, of course, think the 1790 law says that the Founders considered either place of birth or blood descent to equally create a “natural born citizen”. Therefore, I have no problem with a Texas law defining NBC according to current law because current law includes both land and blood.
It won't happen. He's openly a naturalized citizen, and being on the ballot in just one state is worthless, even a state as big as CA.
The first real hurdle will be within the GOP, as the presidential wanna-be's duke it out. I can well imagine a challenge to Cruz's eligibility coming from a member of the GOP.
Eisenhower was tasked with coming up with birth evidence in order to get on the ballot in Texas, and the fact of most interest was location of birth. I assume Cruz's birth certificate shows his birthplace to be Canada.
-- It's like a pastor who is given Biblical and theological training so he can understand and interpret the Bible and help normal people understand what God says to us and does for us. --
Yeah, well, the judges are about as trustworthy in their task of applying and teaching the law, as the Reverend Jesse Jackson, or Wright, or (pick your poison here). They claim to have the wisdom and honesty, but if you peek behind the curtain (read the law, or the Bible yourself), you find out they are like the Wizard of Oz.
Courts do not value the Founding Father's wisdom. They serve a different master.